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TLG
03-21-2012, 07:23 PM
The NFL wanted to make a statement with how it responded to the Saints’ bounty controversy. It needed to at least create the impression that it values player safety. It needed to show that it could come down as hard on coaches and executives as it does on wayward players. Well, today, the league’s punishments were revealed. And boy, did it come down hard.

And boy, did it pick the worst time possible to dominate news coverage.

The news is big: Saints coach Sean Payton is going to be suspended for an entire season without pay, Saints GM Mickey Loomis will be docked eight games and $500,000, Saints assistant Joe Vitt was suspended six games without pay, the Saints franchise itself was also fined $500,000 and loses two second-round draft picks, and former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams (now with the Rams) was suspended indefinitely. Here is the NFL’s release announcing the penalties.

These penalties are massive – massive enough that they’d normally be all anyone cared about. But today, at almost the exact same time the penalties were announced, something else happened. Needless to say, the Saints news is a bit less dominant than it normally might be. It couldn’t be kept totally down – SportsCenter is talking about it as we speak – but Tebow is getting his share of the massive attention.

We wonder if the league wanted it this way. Were they okay with their Saints ruling being overshadowed? It certainly means tat the NFL is all anyone will talk about this afternoon. But we also have to think they wanted their severe punishments of the Saints to make the absolute biggest splash possible. Thanks to Tebow, they didn’t, and a bit of potential PR gold was squandered in the process.

As for whether the punishments were just: sure, it’s not a good thing that this bounty program existed. But it’s like we said when the bounty story broke: it’s football. Football’s violent. Bounty programs are a natural extension of that, and if you went around suspending every coach who knew about one, you’d probably have a lot of suspended coaches.

And while all these suspensions, fines, and lost draft picks might be an effective deterrent for bounties (and therefore might slightly decrease the incentive to hurt opponents and perhaps therefore contribute to a very, very small decrease in player risk), they won’t end violence in football. To do that, you’d have to end… football. And as the intensity and volume of the reactions to the Tebow deal show, that’s not happening.

kenkell1
03-21-2012, 07:47 PM
Roger Goodell better never set foot in New Orleans again or he'll be a dead man for sure.
His ruling is bloody ridiculous, unfair and shows that the NFL will do anything to stop the Saints from winning another SuperBowl especially when New Orleans hosts the Super Bowl this year although that might change now ;)

TLG
03-21-2012, 08:13 PM
The news is big: Saints coach Sean Payton is going to be suspended for an entire season without pay, Saints GM Mickey Loomis will be docked eight games and $500,000, Saints assistant Joe Vitt was suspended six games without pay, the Saints franchise itself was also fined $500,000 and loses two second-round draft picks, and former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams (now with the Rams) was suspended indefinitely. Here is the NFL’s release announcing the penalties.


WOW .. Massive is the correct word !!

I wonder if they can appeal and negotiate some sort of other discipline arrangement ... because this is just short
of dismantling the team

kenkell1
03-21-2012, 08:17 PM
The news is big: Saints coach Sean Payton is going to be suspended for an entire season without pay, Saints GM Mickey Loomis will be docked eight games and $500,000, Saints assistant Joe Vitt was suspended six games without pay, the Saints franchise itself was also fined $500,000 and loses two second-round draft picks, and former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams (now with the Rams) was suspended indefinitely. Here is the NFL’s release announcing the penalties.


WOW .. Massive is the correct word !!

I wonder if they can appeal and negotiate some sort of other discipline arrangement ... because this is just short
of dismantling the team

The NFL has always treated the SAINTS like an unwanted red headed step child and they really couldn't wait to do this to them.
Although having a bounty was stupid, it certainly is NOT the only team in the league to do this and was always considered more of a joke then anything else.
FU NFL.....http://www.yoursmiles.org/tsmile/sex/t1513.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/t-sex.php)

KIDWCKED
03-21-2012, 08:32 PM
Wow!!!Harsh to say the least.Very damaging for the Saints.

kenkell1
03-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Wow!!!Harsh to say the least.Very damaging for the Saints.

it will be even more damaging when everyone finds out Jeremy Shockey was the SOB that snitched.....

TLG
03-21-2012, 08:47 PM
Bounty's are everywhere in sports ,, it's the nature of sports and the force of competivness

in hockey have you ever heard of a coach sending a goon out to get a player..
in baseball has it ever happened where a pitcher intentually hit a batter ..
hell ,, in figure skating Harding went after Kerrigan ..

it just happened that the Saints got caught !!

Although a penalty is warranted ,, in this case though ,, the penalty doesn't fit the crime

kenkell1
03-21-2012, 08:54 PM
Bounty's are everywhere in sports ,, it's the nature of sports and the force of competivness

in hockey have you ever heard of a coach sending a goon out to get a player..
in baseball has it ever happened where a pitcher intentually hit a batter ..
hell ,, in figure skating Harding went after Kerrigan ..

it just happened that the Saints got caught !!

Although a penalty is warranted ,, in this case though ,, the penalty doesn't fit the crime

your a smart gal

The Cobra
03-22-2012, 06:29 PM
The Saints and Payton are being made an example and rightfully so. Not that they are the only team doing it...but they are the only team caught red handed so to speak. The NFL acted only because the leaked story went public, the NFL didn`t suddenly have a twinge of conscience ....they were backed into a corner and HAD to bring down the hammer hard in the public forum. While the suspensions of Loomis and even Williams are mere token suspensions...the suspension of Payton weighs huge for the Saints immediate future and the pocketbook of the Saints ownership re playoff revenues. Brees is negotiating a "franchise" contract....now that Loomis is out of action till the middle of the season does Brees play till then with no contract pending? Before anyone gets technical and writes that Brees can sign and negotiate with ownership...of course he can...but Loomis is the guy that writes the contracts and now he can`t. Millions of dollars could be lost by the Saints organization because of this dumb move by the coaches and players...all the revenue from TV rights, stadium receipts etc etc will hurt the Saints organization deeply if the Saints miss the playoffs or exit early because of no Payton. The ramifications of this little bounty program stretch farther than most people even realize so far..

This decision is HUGE....but these dumb asses left the NFL no choice but to do exactly what was done.

johnnyboy2266
08-20-2012, 06:38 PM
WHO DAT!! Its pay for performance not pay to hurt.