View Full Version : Using DN Receiver to Power LNBS?
sheeeeit
01-08-2012, 03:06 PM
I've been searching through this site and others and googling for the past 2 days but have come up short in regards to actually finding a post or tutorial on how this is done. I've seen it mentioned by others on here that they're using their old dn receivers to help power lnbs and I'm hoping someone can shine some light on the subject for me...
Is this something that is only done with a switch that requires a power inserter? Is the receiver being used instead of something like a videopath power inserter when using a sw-44? Or is this something that you can do when using regular diseqc switches?
I'm looking into this because I am only getting signal rating in the 50's low 60's on my sv8000. I'm running 82,91,110,118/119,129. I should mention that my 82 and 91 feeds are piggy backed from my sub dish using aspen 3x4 multi-switches. With that said do I even need to try doing this since my 82,91 dish is on a powered switch? Would you think my low signal is due to another issue? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
WillDekkard
01-09-2012, 05:06 AM
Power issues usually pertain, but not limited to, DishPro and DishPro Plus LNBs. DP & DPP LNBs are power hogs and most FTA receivers(not all) do not provide enough power. Most of the time the power is provided via the DP34 or the DPP44 switch using the power insertor. The sub receiver can be connected directly to the DP/DPP LNB to provide power. This is most common with the Dish1000.2 that has the triple DPP LNB w/3 outputs. It sounds from your setup that this is not the case and a switch with the power insertor would be needed? This assuming you have DP LNBs.
sheeeeit
01-10-2012, 05:06 AM
Power issues usually pertain, but not limited to, DishPro and DishPro Plus LNBs. DP & DPP LNBs are power hogs and most FTA receivers(not all) do not provide enough power. Most of the time the power is provided via the DP34 or the DPP44 switch using the power insertor. The sub receiver can be connected directly to the DP/DPP LNB to provide power. This is most common with the Dish1000.2 that has the triple DPP LNB w/3 outputs. It sounds from your setup that this is not the case and a switch with the power insertor would be needed? This assuming you have DP LNBs.
The lnbs in my setup with 82 and 91 are dp and are connected to a sw44 running to a subbed pvr and a standard sub box. As mentioned, i piggybacked onto those signals using aspen 3x4 multi switches. My concern is my low signal strength. My quality is very good to excellent on all sats but I'm only reading 57-61 in regards to signal strength. Thinking since I'm running an 8psk module plus a custom fan it might be drawing more power and affecting signal strength. Sooo.... with my setup, do you have any advice on what I should try and change in hopes of improving things? The following is how it is all set up....
82&91 sw44 and two 3x4's- sw44 port 1 into power inserter then into subbed pvr. total of two sub boxes connected to 82&91. feeds from 3x4 multi into diseqc port 1 and 2
110 into sw21
118/119 into port 3 diseqc
129 port 4 diseqc
diseqc out into sw21
sw21 into sv8000
Sooo... can I benefit from using an old dn receiver? I have one that puts out 750... Right now I'm only using one fta receiver so I have an avail connection on either of my dn lnbs. They're all legacy/standard/universal type. Do I just run a coax from one of those lnbs into my old dn receiver?
Thanks so much for your effort and advice.
sheeeeit
01-10-2012, 05:12 AM
By the way, perhaps a mod can create a sticky/how to in regards to using a dn receiver to power lnbs...
sheeeeit
01-14-2012, 09:16 AM
The lnbs in my setup with 82 and 91 are dp and are connected to a sw44 running to a subbed pvr and a standard sub box. As mentioned, i piggybacked onto those signals using aspen 3x4 multi switches. My concern is my low signal strength. My quality is very good to excellent on all sats but I'm only reading 57-61 in regards to signal strength. Thinking since I'm running an 8psk module plus a custom fan it might be drawing more power and affecting signal strength. Sooo.... with my setup, do you have any advice on what I should try and change in hopes of improving things? The following is how it is all set up....
82&91 sw44 and two 3x4's- sw44 port 1 into power inserter then into subbed pvr. total of two sub boxes connected to 82&91. feeds from 3x4 multi into diseqc port 1 and 2
110 into sw21
118/119 into port 3 diseqc
129 port 4 diseqc
diseqc out into sw21
sw21 into sv8000
Sooo... can I benefit from using an old dn receiver? I have one that puts out 750... Right now I'm only using one fta receiver so I have an avail connection on either of my dn lnbs. They're all legacy/standard/universal type. Do I just run a coax from one of those lnbs into my old dn receiver?
Thanks so much for your effort and advice.
bump... anybody?
vyger
01-14-2012, 03:53 PM
not sure about the sonicview but i remember the viewsat days and the S & Q numbers were file related..........my viewsat would only see S & Q in the 60 and 70 then a new file would come out and now it would be in the 80's
have you tried a different brand of receiver with the same hook-up to see what signal strength it shows?
sheeeeit
01-14-2012, 10:23 PM
not sure about the sonicview but i remember the viewsat days and the S & Q numbers were file related..........my viewsat would only see S & Q in the 60 and 70 then a new file would come out and now it would be in the 80's
have you tried a different brand of receiver with the same hook-up to see what signal strength it shows?
I had previously used a kbox, viewsat, nfusion, ariza, and more... I was getting decent and respectable signal quality from what I recall but at the time I was only testing 110&119. I do recall getting lower values on my viewsat but now that I'm running more on my setup plus I have a fan added and 8psk I don't know that it's a fair comparison...
Sooo... can I benefit from using an old dn receiver? I have one that puts out 750... Right now I'm only using one fta receiver so I have a free output on either of my 110/119/129 lnbs. They're all legacy/standard/universal type. Do I just run a coax from one of those lnbs into my old dn receiver?
fputs
01-18-2012, 10:29 PM
Not quite sure how many FTA receivers you are connected to your SW44 to help power your 6 sat LNBs. With 6 lnbs and some of them DP lnbs, you definitely need a DPP44 switch with power inserter to have adequate power. With this being said, my understanding is that DPP switches are only for DPP lnbs. Since you already have a sub, connect your sub to one of the output lines from your SW44 and see if your S signal increases. Hopefully this will do the trick, if not, you would probably need to go the DPP44 route and change all of your lnbs to DPP lnbs.
sheeeeit
01-19-2012, 10:10 PM
The lnbs in my setup with 82 and 91 are dp and are connected to a sw44 running to a subbed pvr and a standard sub box. As mentioned, i piggybacked onto those signals using aspen 3x4 multi switches. My concern is my low signal strength. My quality is very good to excellent on all sats but I'm only reading 57-61 in regards to signal strength. Thinking since I'm running an 8psk module plus a custom fan it might be drawing more power and affecting signal strength. Sooo.... with my setup, do you have any advice on what I should try and change in hopes of improving things? The following is how it is all set up....
82&91 sw44 and two 3x4's- sw44 port 1 into power inserter then into subbed pvr. total of two sub boxes connected to 82&91. feeds from 3x4 multi into diseqc port 1 and 2
110 into sw21
118/119 into port 3 diseqc
129 port 4 diseqc
diseqc out into sw21
sw21 into sv8000
Sooo... can I benefit from using an old dn receiver? I have one that puts out 750... Right now I'm only using one fta receiver so I have an avail connection on either of my 110, 118/9, 129 lnbs. They're all legacy/standard/universal type. Do I just run a coax from one of those lnbs into my old dn receiver?
Thanks so much for your effort and advice.
My setup is as posted above... Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction, or shed some light on the best way to go about this. Thanks once again...
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