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MacBurglar
09-07-2011, 10:49 PM
What a frustrating couple of days it has been. I bought a used STAB motor dish setup with a 33 inch dish.
I followed all the instructions and found true south.
I've hooked it up to my Sonicview8000 and the signal is poor (50-58), and quality poor (O) when I did try to move it around to find a satellite. So I set it and true south, went to the receiver and set it on USALS to find 110 (which is my southernnest satellite). The dish didn't move. I switched out LNB's, nothing.
I just replaced with fresh RG6 cable, (about 25 feet). The dish still isn't moving.
There are no lights lit on the bottom of my STAB motor.
Is it dead, or am I missing something? Thanks for your help.
MacBurglar
09-07-2011, 11:09 PM
Oh, I forgot to add. There's no switch, it's directly attached to the satellite (but grounded).
stman
09-07-2011, 11:11 PM
When you switched to usals, did you enter your lat and longitude first? If you don't, it won't move. There is a led light on the board inside the motor that will always be on when powered.
Costactc
09-07-2011, 11:12 PM
Just a suggestion, factory default your sv and start over in the motor setup part of the menu. If you know what sat your on set it up for disecq 1.2 and manually move the dish yourself. Do not scan in the basic menu but go to motor section and scan sats. I know it's a bit tedious but I have never been a fan of USals, I like to do things by myself. If your not getting signal quality then your dish needs to be tweaked or your lnb needs skewing.
MacBurglar
09-07-2011, 11:23 PM
stman: "When you switched to usals, did you enter your lat and longitude first? If you don't, it won't move. There is a led light on the board inside the motor that will always be on when powered."
Yes, I did enter the lat and longitude. They should be correct, because I got them from a couple of different pointing sites. The led board hasn't been on, which is why I think it may be dead.
costactc: Thanks for the suggestion of the factory reset. If I do that, do I have to input all of the new bins, etc. I'm kinda of wary of doing this, as it's also a used receiver (works) and I don't want to mess it up.
stman
09-07-2011, 11:39 PM
stman: "When you switched to usals, did you enter your lat and longitude first? If you don't, it won't move. There is a led light on the board inside the motor that will always be on when powered."
Yes, I did enter the lat and longitude. They should be correct, because I got them from a couple of different pointing sites. The led board hasn't been on, which is why I think it may be dead.
costactc: Thanks for the suggestion of the factory reset. If I do that, do I have to input all of the new bins, etc. I'm kinda of wary of doing this, as it's also a used receiver (works) and I don't want to mess it up.
Factory reset from the menu only resets the user settings, not software. Just copy down your dish settigs so you can reenter them.
MacBurglar
09-07-2011, 11:46 PM
Thank you. I just was on the roof and connected the coax directly to the lab, bypassing the motor. The signal quality hasn't changed. I'll try the reset, thanks.
MacBurglar
09-08-2011, 12:16 AM
Connected the motor again, reset the receiver and the LNB light is still off. The receiver works because I had it working on my other dish setup. This may sound stupid, but if the motor light is on, is that from power from the receiver, or from the LNB? Thanks.
chifut
09-08-2011, 12:43 AM
From the receiver
MacBurglar
09-08-2011, 12:46 AM
I guess my motor is dead then. I'll just aim my dish at one satellite until I get a new motor. Unless there are any more suggestions, thanks to everyone on this great site.
chifut
09-08-2011, 01:03 AM
This may sound stupod ,did you connect properly the cable between motor and receiver .
.And what did said the guy you bought the motor It's was work or NO before
p.s did he tested it to show you how its work?/
MacBurglar
09-08-2011, 01:11 AM
Hi, Yes it's properly connected. I know which coax was from the receiver as it's marked and I've been switching it back and forth between my other dish. The coax from the basement to the roof was all replaced with new cable. The only cable that's old is between the lab and motor, but I can't see how replacing that would revive the motor. Or am I wrong?
Unfortunately, I couldn't test the motor, as it was attached to the dish and lnb, and detached from the house. I did speak with the guy for a while and found him straightforward and he said it worked.
Pollypurabred
09-08-2011, 01:12 AM
I believe you are on the right track. Hook directly to LNB and then if you can dial in a sat then you should be go to go.
Once you get a sat locked in then you can put your motor in the circuit to verify that the motor is indeed bad.
chifut
09-08-2011, 01:37 AM
Mac ' don't trust nobody ...JMO
..Poly ,Mac don't have power on the motor ..how he can lock the sat ??/without moving the motor.. pheww
MacBurglar
09-08-2011, 02:35 AM
Thanks for the advice. When I bought the box, I made sure it worked. It even moved a dish motor, the guy gave me a complete demonstration, I should have done that with the motor I got from the other guy.
Of note, something interesting, I had my daughter turn on the receiver and attached a cheap satellite finder. It didn't light up, so I had her turn the machine on and off again a couple of times. Then the satellite finder lit up solid on the last time. So there's some signal loss somewhere, the motor may not yet be dead.
MacBurglar
09-08-2011, 04:21 AM
Update, I brought the receiver to the basement, hooked up directly to the coax to the dish. Turned it on, set it up to search with USALS, and checked the motor. There were no lights. Darn, I bought a broken motor. Thanks for your help.
I would forget USALS & try DiSEqC 1.2 like Costactc mentioned in post 4.
If you saw the dish move there is no reason to think the motor is bad a STAB motor is a very good dish mover
slugworth
09-08-2011, 02:22 PM
I would have checked out the motor indoors before you mounted it on the roof.
Motor directly to the receiver should light up.
I had a motor with bad sensors,but at least it lit up even tho it didn't move.
Make sure the coax is connected to the correct connector on the motor.
MacBurglar
09-10-2011, 07:56 PM
Unfortunately, the dish hasn't moved. I'm going to take it off and test it with a shorter coax. It was plugged into the correct connector. What a big hassle, thanks for your help and advice.
Pollypurabred
09-10-2011, 11:28 PM
Have you checked to make sure that you have LNB power set to ON in your menu and since you defaulted the stb, did you reset your desired sat settings?
Then do as slugworth suggested, bring everything inside and set it up there.
MacBurglar
09-10-2011, 11:57 PM
Thanks, I did re-input my settings, and the LNB was on. I'm just waiting for the day to cool down before I go up to the roof.
Just thinking, what LNB setting should I use for a circular LNB? I had set it up to LNB single.
Does it matter which connector I use on a dual LNB? Thanks.
Unfortunately, the dish hasn't moved. I'm going to take it off and test it with a shorter coax. It was plugged into the correct connector. What a big hassle, thanks for your help and advice.
I had some ribbon cable on the last BUD I installed...I had fits like crazy...After half a day I finally got out the meter & realized that both the RG6 cables were bad. Once I put a single "new" RG6...The BUD was a snap. It's aggrivating when the simplest thing can give you havoc
Pollypurabred
09-11-2011, 07:36 PM
On post #8 you stated that your Lnb does indeed have a running/power light. I would bring it back inside and connect directly to your Sv8000 and then you can see if your stb is outputting power. Also I never did see what type of lnb you said you had or changed to but you could play with those settings also.
This may sound stupid, but I have done this, and that is to connect my coax cable to the RF out jack and not to the Lnb input jack....:grr:
slugworth
09-11-2011, 08:30 PM
This may sound stupid, but I have done this, and that is to connect my coax cable to the RF out jack and not to the Lnb input jack....:grr:
That is true,the position on the back of the receiver is different on different brands.
Some are upper left,others are upper right.
Pollypurabred
10-14-2011, 05:18 AM
Mac,
I know been a while but any solution?
MacBurglar
10-19-2011, 05:04 AM
Hi Polypurabred!
Well, there was no solution with the motor. I took it off and just used a straight alignment to 119. It seems to be all I need for now. I still don't know if my motor is dead. Let me pull it out and try it in the next couple of days. It may still have life in it yet, I'll let you know. Thanks for following up, MUCH appreciated!
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