switching 110 119

[ticktack]

new box x-factor does not lock in on 110. the legacy is not grounded, is this the reason? hope this question in right spot. thanks for the help. thank you satfix.

[StanW]

new box x-factor does not lock in on 110. the legacy is not grounded, is this the reason? hope this question in right spot. thanks for the help. thank you satfix.
Grounding ,or lack of will not have any bearing on it . escribe your setup , lnb, switches, antenna settings etc.

[dishuser]

hard to say since you never gave much info on setup

[ticktack]

110,lnb-legacyb,freq11250,transponder 12224,diseq disable,22k off, lnb power auto, legacy switch off.

[david60]

shouldn't it be lnb power on legacy switch on dish 1 119 dish 2 110

[dishuser]

110,lnb-legacyb,freq11250,transponder 12224,diseq disable,22k off, lnb power auto, legacy switch off.

doesn't make sense since you mentioned 119 as well

[ticktack]

119 locks in,no problem,110 doesn't lnb power is 13v, or18v or auto no choice of dish 1 or 2

[StanW]

........ plus switch settings ?

[StanW]

119 locks in,no problem,110 doesn't lnb power is 13v, or18v or auto no choice of dish 1 or 2
Probably working because it's on port 1, or if 22khz on off, of a diseqc.

Which switch are you using?

[david60]

had the same problem if you have a legacy twin you have to get the switch in the lnb to work.

[ticktack]

thats what i think it is , but legacy switch is on off. is this correct. either the wind moved dish or switch inside legacy not working, maybe lighting. thanks for all the help.tried several settings, tricked 110 once but then up pops 119

[StanW]

Unless it's classified information could you post your switch settings for both sats ?

[david60]

if legacy twin power should be on

[ticktack]

sorry, last post say off for settings . tried different settings doesn't seem to lock in though

[ticktack]

119 locks in at sat7, lnb legacyA,lnb freq11250, transponder 12239, diseq disable, 22k off, lnb power auto, legacy switch off. thanks for all the help sattfix thank you

[StanW]

sorry, last post say off for settings . tried different settings doesn't seem to lock in though
If you have more than 1 lnb you have to use a switch ( or the lnb has an internal one) - this has to be reflected in your antenna settings. Exceptions to this are a motorized setup or the special 18/119 lnb.

[StanW]

119 locks in at sat7, lnb legacyA,lnb freq11250, transponder 12239, diseq disable, 22k off, lnb power auto, legacy switch off. thanks for all the help sattfix thank you
Looks like we've come full circle - what about 110?

[ticktack]

yes the switch is internal legacy twin two out puts to run two receivers

[ticktack]

110 settings are in second post thanks stan

[StanW]

yes the switch is internal legacy twin two out puts to run two receivers
If its a legacy twin (no dp logo on the back) than it has an internal switch based on sw42. Not sure what lnb options are available for your receiver but legacy switch for 119 should be set to sw42-dish1 and for 110 sw42-dish2.

[StanW]

110 settings are in second post thanks stan
In that case your lnb settings look correct for 110 and 119 all that remains to be done is to set legacy switch as indicated above.

[ticktack]

it has legacy twin a and b or quad a quad b in switch options. i have this in off position thanks stan

[StanW]

it has legacy twin a and b or quad a quad b in switch options. i have this in off position thanks stan
For 119 try setting twin a, for 110 twin b ( quad a/b are for a dp twin)

[ticktack]

have tried lnb- legacy a for 119, switch setting legacy twin a for 119, and b in the place of a for 110 and 119 keeps locking in for 110 sat. help. thanks for all the help.

[StanW]

have tried lnb- legacy a for 119, switch setting legacy twin a for 119, and b in the place of a for 110 and 119 keeps locking in for 110 sat. help. thanks for all the help.
Let me see if I can find someone that has an x-factor...

.... you are sure that the lnb is a legacy twin? Looks like 2 big fish eyes together and does not have a large dp logo on the back?

[ftarod4now]

try setting 110 sat:
diseq = port 2

try setting 119 sat:
diseq = port 1

shouldn't take more than 15 - 20 seconds to lock in on either sat.

Hope this helps,
Rod

[StanW]

try setting 110 sat:
diseq = port 2

try setting 119 sat:
diseq = port 1

shouldn't take more than 15 - 20 seconds to lock in on either sat.

Hope this helps,
Rod
What gave you the impression that he is using a diseqc switch? :noidea:

[ticktack]

yes it is a legacy twin all together two big eyes, with only two coaxial outputs. than you so much for helping me. wondering if box bad . mini locks on 110 and 119 no problem, just tried it out again to make sure mini still locked on to the two sats , and it did ,could change the settings and put them back correct waleye, good. there are no inline switches, the man i got legacy from said it was built in. 119 is the boss in this box . where is the locking 110. maybe the legacy switch stuck on 119. thanks again stan, and to all others for their help. i still love my mini

[StanW]

If it's working on the mini ( have one of those -great little receiver) than it's not the internal switch.... maybe the x-factor has issues with sw42. Please bear with me I am trying to get more information on the subject.

[ftarod4now]

I know he is not using a diseqc switch... I think if he tries to set it up like this it will force the internal switch to work correctly.




Example for setting up a Dish 500 with a (LNB with internal switch)
Sat: Echo 7 119W
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Freq: 11250
22KHZ: OFF
LNB Power: ON
Transponder: 12239
DiSEqC: LNB 1 .... or Port 1
Motor: Disable
Legacy Switch: OFF

Sat: Echo 8,10 110W
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Freq: 11250
22KHZ: OFF
LNB Power: ON
Transponder: 12224
DiSEqC: LNB 2 ... or Port 2
Motor: Disable
Legacy Switch: OFF

[ticktack]

tried settings you suggested, box doesn't have that setting for lnb, only single, legacy a&b quad a&b, dishpro and universial. when tried bars flash nothing locks on except legacy a for 119. no good with 110. thanks for help ftarodfornow, and all others

[StanW]

tried settings you suggested, box doesn't have that setting for lnb, only single, legacy a&b quad a&b, dishpro and universial. when tried bars flash nothing locks on except legacy a for 119. no good with 110. thanks for help ftarodfornow, and all others
And it has only 4 settings for legacy switch?

[gusman]

do you have any extra lnb and diseqc switch?

or try it to any of your buddy that has the regular lnb and diseqc switch...

I believed that was the issue of x-factor during N2 that never been resolved (not 100% though!)

[ticktack]

yes legacy twin a and b, quad a and b

[StanW]

yes legacy twin a and b, quad a and b
And you tried all 4 on 110....

[ticktack]

tried every mixed up settin available, have tricked and locked in 110 but then it fades and goes out when chnl changing. 110 stations will not come in. thanks for the help. looks like x-factor back to dealer.it either works or not. wonder if a dishpro lnb would work. diseqc are little outdated aren't they?

[StanW]

I think that you're right when it comes to legacy twins.... Dishpros require quite a bit of power - who knows how the receiver would like them :noidea:

[ticktack]

do you think discussions of the factor would be a place to ask what settings ppls use, and maybe could try if anyone has it locked in. thanks stan for all the help.

[StanW]

Which x-factor model do you have?

[homer_™]

I do not use a legacy switch but I can tell you the options available in the antenna settings

Lnb type: single, Dish pro, Legacy A, legacy B,Quad A, Quad B, Universal
Lnb Freq: various
TP freq: various
DiseqC 1.0 Port one to four and disable
22hz on and off
lnb power 13v,18v and auto
Leagacy Switch: Twin A, Twin B, Quad A and Quad B

maybe turn the Diseq off and use the legacy switch. Match the Legacy A with the Twin A and the Legacy B with the Twin B?

[StanW]

Tried that , the lnb in question has a build in switch ( sw42) . Works fine on 119 ( guess that's where the switch is parked) but does not switch , reliably , to 110.

Do you know if it will work with dishpro lnbs ?

[ticktack]

it's the x-1 factor

[ticktack]

read in lnb section that legacy twin could be used only on receivers that had the sw21 option in menu. the x-factor does not have this option. therefore it will not work correctly.may have to go back to single dual and chieta switch or dishpro dual.unless you find out something different. thaks

[StanW]

The lack of legacy switch support would definitely be a show stopper. I wouldn't run out and purchase dishpros - as you have indicated yourself they have issues with fta receivers so unless you have one laying around......


... here's the excuse you've always been looking for to go motorized.... a nice invacom lnb :D

[ticktack]

there are some legacy duals and chietas laying around, do you know if the singles options would match? can't afford a motorized yet.just trying to figure out what would work. there are a double grounding block in the lines ,rusty, do you think that could cause the 110 side to be weaker? thank you stan ,and any other help.

[StanW]

The duals will definitely work - not sure of the lnb settings ; you'll have to play with it. A rusty grounding block should not affect your signal - but it all depends which areas are rusted . Why not simply change it ? They cost $1 -2 ( try to get the one rated for rg6 - usually have blue inner plastic).

What are you going to do about the dish ? Replace it by a skewable one with a bracket that can hold at least 2 lnbs or add another dish for 110 ?

btw : I motorized a few years ago - , 36" dish - $29 , motor $60 and invacom around $50.

[ticktack]

will replace block, already have dish 500,had trouble with switching problems using cnx and viewsat, so went to legacy twin, cleared up problem.had two legacy duals in place before,with chietas guess it will go back to that.only running one box now so won't be a problem. thanks for all the help.