Actuator help

[Bubby]

How does the mounting tube that slides in and out connect to the nut? I am in the process of putting my dish back up after a move and the actuator moves the dish when it is pushing the mounting tube out but when it pulls the mounting tube back towards itself the internal parts move but the dish does not, although I can manually push the dish once it gets to the location. I unhooked the dish from the mounting tube and I can pull the tube right out, is there a pin or something that should hold it in? Thanks for any info.

[Gold]

How does the mounting tube that slides in and out connect to the nut? I am in the process of putting my dish back up after a move and the actuator moves the dish when it is pushing the mounting tube out but when it pulls the mounting tube back towards itself the internal parts move but the dish does not, although I can manually push the dish once it gets to the location. I unhooked the dish from the mounting tube and I can pull the tube right out, is there a pin or something that should hold it in? Thanks for any info.

Hello Bubby,
Welcome to Satfix!
First I moved you post here. This will be your own thread. I did this so you can get the best help possible. Sorry if I created an inconvenience by doing so.

In the old discussion (which was here (http://satfix.net/showthread.php?t=20509))
We were talking about a Von Wiese brand.

If yours is a Von Wiese. The there are two ways & both are a little different.

Both the 18" & th 24" have a nylon plastic nut in the "inner" tube...Sounds like yours is stripped they can be purchased here
http://www.a1components.com/subcategory.aspx?pid=306
The 18" have a plastic retaining ring with two round nipples 180° apart which hold the nut in place.

The 24" is different. The actual inner tube is "crushed" into the nylon nut to hold it in place. These are a little longer & I cant find where to buy them. I manufactured my inner tube to accept the one for the url I gave

[Bubby]

Thanks for setting up the thread...Yes I also have a Von Weise actuator which is the 24" model. With the info you provided that it was a nylon nut, I was able to put the tube back in and unscrew the busted nylon nut piece all the way out. I have some two part epoxy that I think I will use to put it back in place, since just the shoulders of the nut that sit behind the crimps are the only thing that is busted on it, that way I don't have to wait for a shipment.

I am a little over my head on setting this dish up. I inherited the dish when we bought a house back 10 years or so ago and fell in love with 4dtv and then when espn left I got into backhauls and fell in love with that. I just can't bring myself to submit to the two pizza dish monopolies. My wife and I recently sold our house and moved back to our home town and of course the dish came with me. We are in the process of getting a house built but I couldn't take the no dish anymore so decided to put it up where we are renting in the meantime. I got the pole set and was trying to pick up some signals when I dumped the dish and it broke the nylon nut. I was hoping to just leave the dish on a sat. and then I would be close when I reset the dish up, since we only moved about 75 miles north but no luck. I had to take the dish in half to transport it, I may have misaligned the feedhorn when I reassembled since I can't pick up a signal. 7.5 ft dish, 14" depth, I came up with a distance of 36.18" and it seems to be spot on there. If I try to get on a sat and go into options on the 922 dsr and try to adjust the picture I have a signal of 100 then it drops down to 50's and then goes right back to 100 and the quality doesn't move off of 99, it makes me think something isn’t quite right. I then try to scan some channels with the traxis and nothing pops in. I have been out of the "loop" for close to a year, what is a good strong ITC 4dtv sat/channel that I could search for? Thanks for the help.

[Gold]

You're in Missouri too?
Honestly I don't think I am very far from you.
4DTV, well I'm not a pro on that. My receiver I bought was bad, & just never invested in another one yet, but a few to try are:

I don't know what LNB you have

G12
3820 V 29270-3/4
3920 H NTSC
4040 H NTSC

AMC 18
3940 H 30000-5/6 DVB-S2 MPEG-4
4140 H 19510-3/4

I hope the info provided will help

I use a Coolsat 6000 with a DMX741 LNBF on one 10' BUD & a DMX741U on the other 10' I don't know how many ITC channels I have...I say over 300 but G19 has 250 just by itself. So I guess I have 500 - 800 ITC channels

There are other members here that use those DSR receivers all the time. They will be a lot better help then I can.

[Bowhunters]

I live in Kansas and i've had a BUD for years and I currently have sub'd 4DTV on a DSR922 on a 10ft dish.

I would go back to basics and use a compass and make sure your dish mount on the pole is pointing straight south, if you didn't mess with the elevation on the polar mount when you moved you shouldn't need to mess with that.

W5 would probably be the easiest to lock onto, its just a few degrees to the east of being straight south so align the dish pointing south with your pole mount so both are aimed south and then bump the dish a few times going east and you should soon find W5.

On the DSR922 there are strong sub'd channels on W5 starting at Ch100 and up that you can lock onto and it will say you are not subscribed.

I get signal on W5 in the 90's strength here in Kansas so you should get the same in Mo., a few I watch on sub.

Ch140 - Movieplex
Ch420 - Outdoor Ch
Ch642 - SyFy

[Bubby]

I am actually from Michigan....W5 was the sat. I left it on when I took it down because I did have a sub for the golf channel at the time. I am going to get the compass and protractor out and see if I can get it tuned in this weekend.

I have Ku and C band lnbs, I usually use my traxis to track down feeds or get some off from different sites and plug them into my pci card, tt-3200, to watch them.

[sideswiper]

if you can not get your actuator fixed they sell them on eb*y fairly cheap. how is it going augoldfinger ?I havent been around alot of fta sites since "talk" closed shop.

[Gold]

Hello Swiper,
Things are ok.
I know what you mean. I was use to going to "Talk" every day.
I took my old CS6100 off my BUD & put a CS6000 on it. I have been getting much better results.

Bubby from what I have heard the Traxis is top notch for SD feeds. Is your dish a solid dish or mesh?

[Bubby]

Its a 7.5ft mesh dish. I have been looking to pick up a bigger dish but haven't stumbled into one yet. Most of the vacant dishes I see around our area are 6 to 8ft'ers. I could get most of the feeds with my 7.5ft dish but occasionaly I miss out on some of the weaker signals... The traxis was a fast blind scan unit but technology has passed it by and I am going to need to pick up a new blind scan unit, probably one of the prof pci cards.

I epoxied the nylon nut back in place last night and it seems to be good and solid, I will put it back on today and see if it works

[Bubby]

I got W5 coming in strong, I had to readjust the feed horn. I will now have to adjust all the other sats., hopefully the dish will track pretty close to where it did before and it will just need some tweaking here and there to peak them.

[aguiar]

what kind of box are u using to move that dish?

[Bubby]

I am using a dsr 922, but we will see what happens after the end of the year, with the motorola changes, I might be in the market for a new box.

[Gold]

I am using a dsr 922, but we will see what happens after the end of the year, with the motorola changes, I might be in the market for a new box.

I have read that $kyvision has successfully patched those & the DSR920's for W5...I was waiting myself for the end of the year though, & might look into a DSR410.

I have a friend on another board told me they (DSR410) can't move the dish, but I do have a VBox

[sideswiper]

I have to renew my sub on my 922 on dec 20 i will contact my programmer then and see what up with the 920's and 922's then he was saying 3 months ago that things were looking good for the 920 and 922 with subing to W5 sat in the new year,i hope so as i prefer my 922 over my Bev sub any day and i only sub to W5 sat anyways but we may loose the sat maps. I think i may pick up another 922 just to use for subing and use the other one with the generic sat maps to play with as they are going for next to nothing on eb*y right now

[Costactc]

Too many issues up in the air at the moment. I'm just going to use the 920 as a stand alone positioner until all the dust settles.

[Bowhunters]

I hear you Costactc.

I deleted my old post on how to update the 4DTV receivers DSR920's and 922's as I am afraid someone may jump the gun and do something they can't undo.

Let me just say this for those that read this, there is a site that you can go to that tells how to get the updates done right now but it will kill your 920 or 922 as a dish mover and will erase all the other sats and sat mapping abilities of the receiver and it will be froze on W5.

On Dec31st the 4DTV will go dark but on Jan 5th they will announce how to patch your 4DTV receiver to get the new Skyvision W5 packages and it will still allow the receiver to be used for FTA as it will allow it to retain the old sats and the dish mover will still work.

So IMO Costactc hit the nail on the head, too many issues on it remain unresolved and if someone does their patch today on their 4DTV receiver they will do something that probably can't be undone.

[Bubby]

I hear you Costactc.

I deleted my old post on how to update the 4DTV receivers DSR920's and 922's as I am afraid someone may jump the gun and do something they can't undo.

Let me just say this for those that read this, there is a site that you can go to that tells how to get the updates done right now but it will kill your 920 or 922 as a dish mover and will erase all the other sats and sat mapping abilities of the receiver and it will be froze on W5.

On Dec31st the 4DTV will go dark but on Jan 5th they will announce how to patch your 4DTV receiver to get the new Skyvision W5 packages and it will still allow the receiver to be used for FTA as it will allow it to retain the old sats and the dish mover will still work.
So IMO Costactc hit the nail on the head, too many issues on it remain unresolved and if someone does their patch today on their 4DTV receiver they will do something that probably can't be undone.

Where did you get the highlighted info? I heard it would not continue to be able to be used as the other sats would disappear and only W5 will remain?

[Bowhunters]

Where did you get the highlighted info? I heard it would not continue to be able to be used as the other sats would disappear and only W5 will remain?

There is only one way (right now) to patch the 920's and 922's however if you were to do it today it will kill it for use as a dish mover and it will wipe the memory of other satellites so that it only see's the W5 sat, therefore it kills them for FTA use.

Some have worked with Skyvision and worked out a different way (step by step) to do the patch on the 920 and 922 4DTV recievers but it will still allow the dish mover to work and the memory will still be intact for storing other sat locations so it can still be used for FTA use, unfortunately that 2nd way to patch will not be released until the 5th of January after the old 4DTV channels go dark.

They didn't say why they had to wait until Jan 5th, just that they would post that second way then and that it will allow the receivers to still be used for FTA.

I can post or pm you the link but I just don't want someone to use the update they have available now and then be mad because they didn't wait a month and now their dish mover is dead they could no longer use it for FTA and that it can't be undone.

[Bubby]

Thanks for the info. I have an email from Skyvision about the 7 step process that will get your 922 the W5 package, I was under the impression that the 7 step process would render the unit useless for fta use being that its my dish mover. My question to you is, is there another process that you have been told other than the 7 step one they emailed out that will allow the reciever to be used for moving the dish on other sats?

Sorry for all the questions, it just seems all the boards have conflicting answers.

[Bubby]

I just got off the phone with Skyvision and they confirmed a work around with the 922 so it CAN be used as a dish mover and get the W5 programming. He said they have been working on it and testing it and their looks to be no problems with the workaround and will be releasing the info shortly.

[sideswiper]

thanks for the info ,hope it's true that we will still be able to use the 920's and 922's as a dish mover and sub to W5 also the 920's and 922's are more spot on than any V or G boxes.

[Costactc]

thanks for the info ,hope it's true that we will still be able to use the 920's and 922's as a dish mover and sub to W5 also the 920's and 922's are more spot on than any V or G boxes.

Gotta agree with you on that,my 920 is spot on for accuracy in comparison to the vbox I used to use. For positioner accuracy I would still have to say my pansat AP3500 is superior.