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TurboPirate
05-30-2010, 10:41 PM
Hello guys, I have this air compressor and I lend it to a friend, I was going to use it yesterday but it started to sound weird, when I open it UP I found the copper line from the compressor to the tank broken, do you guys know how to repair this?
Model number: 919.167241
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jerryc
05-30-2010, 10:55 PM
get a copper union to splice it together ther a good patch up

StanW
05-30-2010, 11:21 PM
... or a brass one . Don't have to solder that way.

TurboPirate
05-31-2010, 02:36 AM
... or a brass one . Don't have to solder that way.


get a copper union to splice it together their a good patch up
There are 3 double union I can get, 1 I can flare both sides and put it together 2 is the one with rings once I start tightening the rings will to the flare thingy and solder type, from what Stand W says, I need to discard the solder one, 2 remain in the plan.................wish one do you guys suggest.

StanW
05-31-2010, 12:42 PM
The solder one will work fine Turbo ... A brass one with inner compression rings simply eliminates the need for soldering.

sneerboy
05-31-2010, 04:39 PM
Low grade brittle copper will continue to fail from vibration.

Replace the tube with refrigeration tubing from an HVAC contractor.

If you take the old tube and a case of beer (and a designated driver) to your local refrigeration contractor on a Friday afternoon you'll be taken care of.
:D

TurboPirate
06-01-2010, 02:00 AM
Low grade brittle copper will continue to fail from vibration.

Replace the tube with refrigeration tubing from an HVAC contractor.

If you take the old tube and a case of beer (and a designated driver) to your local refrigeration contractor on a Friday afternoon you'll be taken care of.
:D

lol, Thank God the A/C shop is near my house no need of a designated driver so all the Jack Daniel's bottle is for me.......thanks for the idea.
Stand W I knew you meant to eliminate the soldering process, personally I think the solder can't handle the vibration........thanks for the idea buddy:thumbsup:.........

Terryl
06-01-2010, 03:15 AM
I hade a problem with my big air compressor just like the one your having, so I went down to my local diesel truck repair house and had a ˝” stainless steel braid flex hose made for mine, it's rated to 300 PSIG and will not fail due to vibration.

JCO
06-01-2010, 03:17 AM
I like Terryl's Idea.. that setup should be trouble free for a long time..:yes:

TurboPirate
06-02-2010, 03:38 AM
I like Terryl's Idea.. that setup should be trouble free for a long time..:yes:

Yep, I agree, it sounds bulletproof...

Terryl
06-02-2010, 04:32 AM
It only cost me $45, been trouble free for years.

My next project for that compressor is to add a refrigerated air dryer to it, that way I don't have to buy one for each air drop, as I moved it out to the new workshop last month.

miguelon
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Hello guys, I have this air compressor and I lend it to a friend, I was going to use it yesterday but it started to sound weird, when I open it UP I found the copper line from the compressor to the tank broken, do you guys know how to repair this?
Model number: 919.167241
And some photos
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/turbopirate/SANY2444.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/turbopirate/SANY2445.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/turbopirate/SANY2446.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/turbopirate/SANY2447.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/turbopirate/SANY2450.jpg

It should be very simple; All you need is compression fitting size 3/8"
The ends of the tubing shhould be cut with a tubing cutter so the ends are straight , insert the ends in the compression fitting and tighten, that should do it. The other way is to replace the whole copper line.
miguelon

Ducks®™
07-06-2010, 12:46 AM
I know this is an older post but someone might learn from this may I add?
I R3sP3cT your compression coupling idea but Sir thats is mostly a temp fix.
I would replace the copper as it needs those bends for the shroud and flex as the motor will vibrate.
I for one can bend those with a coil spring and a flaring tool using soft copper.. or I would use a copper coupling and silver solder.
I mean no Disrespect only trying to give an input tks/
I am only a humble learner in many ways and a teacher when someone listens. I have been around a few blocks in my life's time :innocent:

Ducks®™
07-06-2010, 12:49 AM
lol, Thank God the A/C shop is near my house no need of a designated driver so all the Jack Daniel's bottle is for me.......thanks for the idea.
Stand W I knew you meant to eliminate the soldering process, personally I think the solder can't handle the vibration........thanks for the idea buddy:thumbsup:.........

Silver solder,, man thats what your ac is put together with and a semi hermetic compressor vibrates like a jack hammer.
I don`t know squat but this is a fact/And for what its worth as of this year I am a licensed Master Electrician in 4 different states/ This year only as I can`t work anymore until they get me stabilized/Oh 25 years now in the trade.. IBEW local #1 w00t

StanW
07-06-2010, 12:53 AM
I know this is an older post but someone might learn from this may I add?
I R3sP3cT your compression coupling idea but Sir thats is mostly a temp fix.
I would replace the copper as it needs those bends for the shroud and flex as the motor will vibrate.
I for one can bend those with a coil spring and a flaring tool using soft copper.. or I would use a copper coupling and silver solder.
I mean no Disrespect only trying to give an input tks/
I am only a humble learner in many ways and a teacher when someone listens. I have been around a few blocks in my life's time :innocent:

Hey Ducks - we appreciate all input/ideas ; thats the best way to enhance our knowledge ... You bring up points - what it boils down to ,in this instance , is the quickest and easiest way to get the compressor back on line ..

Now to your silver solder idea .. I have used silver solder with stainless but never even thought about using it with copper - how would one go about it ?

Ducks®™
07-06-2010, 01:01 AM
Clean both sides apply map gas and heat the coupling and apply this stick of silver solder. Brother it will melt like butter... walk away I mean you can just tap the top side and it will do the rest,, without going into great detail.. trust me /they make many diffrent types of silver solder,, get the cheep stuff for copper to copper...that means like 5% silver and it will never ever break before the copper.

freddydog1
07-06-2010, 01:08 AM
I hade a problem with my big air compressor just like the one your having, so I went down to my local diesel truck repair house and had a ˝” stainless steel braid flex hose made for mine, it's rated to 300 PSIG and will not fail due to vibration.

yup thats the way to go for sure

StanW
07-06-2010, 01:13 AM
Clean both sides apply map gas and heat the coupling and apply this stick of silver solder. Brother it will melt like butter... walk away I mean you can just tap the top side and it will do the rest,, without going into great detail.. trust me /they make many diffrent types of silver solder,, get the cheep stuff for copper to copper...that means like 5% silver and it will never ever break before the copper.


Regular solder coupled with lead based solder lasts about 20 years , in humid conditions , in my neck of the woods - after that the joints tend to come apart . I guess this is due to oxidation - your idea has merit , I guess I would have to wait for the copper tube to split due to age .

You are saying not to use any type of cleaner prior to applying the silver solder ? Until now I have been using a white, water based 'flux' - have to heat up both parts of ss cherry read in order tp bond.

Ducks®™
07-06-2010, 01:26 AM
yup thats the way to go for sure

A flex hose is cool beans and I give you grace on that idea.. but the cost..

No sir there should be no reason to use a flux with silver solder LOL.. well forgive me for laughing ... hey bro are you a true Duck Hunter,, shoot me a PM.. DUDE I AM ATE the fok UP with duck hunting and have land in the BEST place in the USA w00t,,, dude you must not know me.

freddydog1
07-06-2010, 01:33 AM
A flex hose is cool beans and I give you grace on that idea.. but the cost.. daum!

No sir there should be no reason to use a flux with silver solder LOL.. well forgive me for laughing ... hey bro are you a true Duck Hunter,, shoot me a PM.. DUDE I AM ATE the fok UP with duck hunting and have land in the BEST place in the USA w00t,,, dude you must not know me.

any good plumbing supply place can supply one for a lot less,,if you can get swadgelock that the way to go