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stoner66
09-15-2021, 08:55 PM
Hi there I have one friend that is using a T95 android box and is having lots problems with TSN channels. He says that watching a regular show is good but when trying to watch a live game on TSN it freezes and hangs up. I am not having that problem. Any ideas what I can do to fix problem should I tell him to run a ethernet cable and plug box in direct. He is in a older house and using Bell as Internet. He is also saying if he goes on his phone tv freezes or cuts out.

nobodyspecial
09-15-2021, 09:07 PM
I would tell him to call bell and get them to check the line He should also mention
internet issues when using a phone Make sure box is off when he calls bell. He should consider hard wiring it too

stoner66
09-15-2021, 09:26 PM
K will tell him to try those things. He did have Bell Fibe T.V and was running okay with there receiver

stoner66
09-15-2021, 09:57 PM
What is the best ethernet cable to use probably need 50 foot to hide it . Should use Cat 7 or Cat 6

nobodyspecial
09-15-2021, 10:16 PM
Cat 5 is fine

Emporium
09-16-2021, 12:29 AM
Cat5e is what you will typically find for cheap and will be perfectly fine for these boxes. Most run at 100Mbps max anyhow so not even close to saturating it, even on the crappiest built cable ;) .

Cat6 is often only $2 or $3 more for that length, so I would typically just get the CAT 6 cable, but it is not "needed" in any way.

EX: Primecables presently has the 50ft CAT5e for $10.49 and the CAT6 is $13.49, and they have it in different colors which can help to hide it easier if it will be exposed.

cryman2001
09-16-2021, 11:39 AM
Hi there I have one friend that is using a T95 android box and is having lots problems with TSN channels. He says that watching a regular show is good but when trying to watch a live game on TSN it freezes and hangs up. I am not having that problem. Any ideas what I can do to fix problem should I tell him to run a ethernet cable and plug box in direct. He is in a older house and using Bell as Internet. He is also saying if he goes on his phone tv freezes or cuts out.

This is a common problem with t95 box live fast tv like hockey is not fluid on screen and freeze often on fast moving player
Also if you look on bottom screen moving info bar you will see that it is not fluid at all

stoner66
09-19-2021, 02:12 PM
What do y ou mean common on the T95 it has a good processor and fast box so why would do that ?

Emporium
09-20-2021, 02:04 AM
What do y ou mean common on the T95 it has a good processor and fast box so why would do that ?

I don't have a T95, so I can't comment about this specific box, but I've had many other boxes where on paper they are awesome, with great processors, etc..
However in real world they have all sorts of issues. Android builds, codecs, libraries, drivers, optimizations and other stuff are critical for a smooth box experience. Takes one crappy background app or driver that leaks memory to cause chaos and strange behaviours to the whole box.
One that comes to mind was my old BeeLink GT1. It had awesome specs for its time (S912 Octa-core, plenty of memory, etc..) , but you had to jump through hoops to overcome all sorts of playback issues, and there was never a formal fix ever released. There were some community patches to get around the issues for the most part, but it was a pain and just unstable.

stoner66
10-23-2021, 02:05 PM
K all is good not cutting in and out since wired direct. But now my friend says anytime he sends a text message from his phone that the android box goes black. What can do this going to go take a look never seen this.

Emporium
10-23-2021, 05:03 PM
K all is good not cutting in and out since wired direct. But now my friend says anytime he sends a text message from his phone that the android box goes black. What can do this going to go take a look never seen this.

NOTHING can do this. Text message is over LTE/GSM cell network. Has nothing to do with his internet. And even if he was using some internet app like Whatsapp, messenger, viber, etc...Or even if he was using VoLTE or Wifi calling options, they don't use enough bandwidth to even make a blip on the whole thing.

Maybe it is time to do a full reset on the box and start clean or just get a whole new box. Truth is with these Chinese import boxes, is "you get what you pay for". I gave up on them MANY years ago (all sorts of strange behaviours, freezing, hanging, glitching, etc..).

I hear buzzTV has a bunch of nice boxes :innocent:

On the entry level they have the Essentials E2, which is pretty impressive for an entry level box.

https://canada.buzztvglobal.com/collections/buzztv-iptv-boxes/products/buzz-essentials-e2-ultra-hd-iptv-box

And on the high end, they have the xrs4900, which just rocks.

https://canada.buzztvglobal.com/collections/buzztv-iptv-boxes/products/buzztv-xrs-4900-ultra-hd-iptv-box-pre-order-now-free-usa-canada-wide-shipping

stoner66
10-24-2021, 01:18 PM
Okay did a full reset and everything seemed good then he went online on his phone and receiver froze I have never seen this before. I have few other people with same box and no issues. Will tell him to try to do a speed test on internet. Also will tell him to do one online and when his phone and receiver all on at same time. If that fails maybe another box . What is a good box that is reasonable priced.

The Noof
10-24-2021, 01:22 PM
Okay did a full reset and everything seemed good then he went online on his phone and receiver froze I have never seen this before. I have few other people with same box and no issues. Will tell him to try to do a speed test on internet. Also will tell him to do one online and when his phone and receiver all on at same time. If that fails maybe another box . What is a good box that is reasonable priced.

"Reasonably priced" is relative to quality & features vs price point.The Buzztv 4900 is a reasonably priced quality stb, as are the 4000/4500 models.Forget the bottom end chinese crap units & spend more time watching tv rather than fixing it.Consider it as re-investing some of the money you save on cable/satellite subscriptions to enhance your viewing experience.

Emporium
10-24-2021, 04:07 PM
Okay did a full reset and everything seemed good then he went online on his phone and receiver froze I have never seen this before. I have few other people with same box and no issues. Will tell him to try to do a speed test on internet. Also will tell him to do one online and when his phone and receiver all on at same time. If that fails maybe another box . What is a good box that is reasonable priced.

Like The Noof mentioned, it is all relative. I also recommend stay away from bottom end chinese boxes. The hassle of strange issues, is just not worth it.

The 4900 is great, but I understand it may be a lot more than some people are willing to spend.
The xrs4500 is a great mid point.
But if that is also too expensive, then the Essentials E2 (not the older E1), is a great entry point for a solid box. It is essentially the same as an xrs4500, except there is no bluetooth remote, and less memory. But, it has same CPU and also running the buzztv4 app (and will be updated to buzztv5 eventually).
And with buzz box, the buzzTV applications, makes using a 3rd party app, completely redundant, and not needed in most cases. And the app is so much better than anything out there (including tivimate, which is the best for most generic boxes).

Nut honestly, I don't see the relation between his phone and his box. Unless he is running a torrent client on his phone and downloading at full speed, I don't see what the phone can doing to kill the box.

Did he by any chance do something stupid like manually override the MAC address on his phone to emulate the MAC on his T95 box, in order to try to get his single subscription on box his box and his phone ? Either way, the MAC is emulated on all these in one form or another, since the physical MAC is not really what is used.

If he uses any other wireless device in his home (tablet, laptop, PC, someone else's phone, etc..) does he experience the same issues ? Or just with his phone ?

dishuser
10-24-2021, 04:12 PM
Like The Noof mentioned, it is all relative. I also recommend stay away from bottom end chinese boxes. The hassle of strange issues, is just not worth it.

The 4900 is great, but I understand it may be a lot more than some people are willing to spend.
The xrs4500 is a great mid point.
But if that is also too expensive, then the Essentials E2 (not the older E1), is a great entry point for a solid box. It is essentially the same as an xrs4500, except there is no bluetooth remote, and less memory. But, it has same CPU and also running the buzztv4 app (and will be updated to buzztv5 eventually).
And with buzz box, the buzzTV applications, makes using a 3rd party app, completely redundant, and not needed in most cases. And the app is so much better than anything out there (including tivimate, which is the best for most generic boxes).

Nut honestly, I don't see the relation between his phone and his box. Unless he is running a torrent client on his phone and downloading at full speed, I don't see what the phone can doing to kill the box.

Did he by any chance do something stupid like manually override the MAC address on his phone to emulate the MAC on his T95 box, in order to try to get his single subscription on box his box and his phone ? Either way, the MAC is emulated on all these in one form or another, since the physical MAC is not really what is used.

If he uses any other wireless device in his home (tablet, laptop, PC, someone else's phone, etc..) does he experience the same issues ? Or just with his phone ?

the e2 is comparable to the xr 4000

stoner66
10-25-2021, 12:32 AM
Can't seem him over riding the mac id on hos phone but he isn't to computer literate. He notices it when he goes online on his phone or gets a text. Weird once he disconnects he counts once freezes and takes bout 3 seconds and when he goes on phone. Never seen
this happed before. We wired box direct and he moved the box that it is right under the t.v but we wired it in direct. Will ask if he uses the laptop or tablet if same thing happens or not ? I have a older box might program that and see how it runs or he has a firestick also. I wonder if I change the MAc ID if it would do the same or not.

Emporium
10-25-2021, 01:05 AM
the e2 is comparable to the xr 4000

Actually it is pretty close to an xr4000, except the E2 has a newer CPU S905X3 Coretex A55 CPU vs S905X2 Coretex A53 (in xr4000). And the E2 has BT 5.0, vs 4.0 on xr4000.

Specs on xr4000 states Wifi is Dual Band AC, but the Essentials E2 says Dual Band 2x2 AC, so dont know if that means the e2 supports MIMO but the xr4000 doesn't ? Could also just be incomplete spec sheets, that don't point out the "obvious".

But in real world performance, I agree, they are probably identical.

I am pretty impressed with the E2.

And overall with the Buzz boxes, the IR remotes are very impressive. I sometimes forget that I am using an IR remote because the angles are awesome. I don't have to point directly at the units. I remember the crappy Chinese boxes, you had to point directly at the box, and even then, sometimes it was painfull. Chinese boxes I had no choice but to use 3rd party RF remote with usb dongles. Otherwise they were unusable.

Emporium
10-25-2021, 01:14 AM
Can't seem him over riding the mac id on hos phone but he isn't to computer literate. He notices it when he goes online on his phone or gets a text. Weird once he disconnects he counts once freezes and takes bout 3 seconds and when he goes on phone. Never seen
this happed before. We wired box direct and he moved the box that it is right under the t.v but we wired it in direct. Will ask if he uses the laptop or tablet if same thing happens or not ? I have a older box might program that and see how it runs or he has a firestick also. I wonder if I change the MAc ID if it would do the same or not.

I don't see how an SMS message coming over GSM/LTE can affect his box, that is using WiFi or hard wired. They are completely unrelated.

What router is he using ? Is the router ancient ? Is it overloaded maybe and even something like a DHCP request causes it to glitch ? Or does he have piles of crazy firewall rules that rule processing is just too heavy ?

What internet speeds does he have ? With single box streaming, unless you are on old DSL 6Mbps plan, I don't see speeds being an issue.

I don't know, just stabbing in the dark here because it is strange. Maybe try the box at your place and see if the box is the issue. Or like you mentioned, try another box and see if it behaves the same.