IPGUYS being sued

[Atom13]

Heads up, Looks like DISH is going after IPGUYS. Reading this on some legitimate sites Torrentfreak and Reddit. Hoping its fake news, but looks like they are cracking down something fierce.

[maird57]

I believe if this was true what I read on Torrentfreak that Dish knows who the accused are they would have cut their subs and IPGUYS would have shut down by now.

c/p from Torrentfreak
Popular 'pirate' IPTV service IPGuys is the latest provider to fall victim to the lawyers of DISH Network. In a lawsuit filed in the United States, three named individuals and 10 John Does stand accused of capturing DISH signals from satellite feeds and redistributing them via the Internet utilizing a network of IPTV resellers.

[Highwayman]

Yeah I remember running url helper while checking out those guys and their dish dvr info came up lol but it comes up on a service sold here too!

[Longster]

It is true and Romie IPTV World also on the list. Here is a copy and paste

Those involved in the sale of unlicensed IPTV services appear to be coming under attack from an increasing number of angles.

Just this week, the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment confirmed that it was behind the closure of previously popular IPTV service Vader Streams.

Just days earlier, the UK’s Federation Against Copyright Theft said it had served cease-and-desist notices in 16 locations to individuals involved in the supply of infringing sports streams, with at least some acting as resellers of ‘pirate’ IPTV services.

Today, another well-known provider is added to the growing list.

IPGuys is a recognized brand in the IPTV space. It has no website of its own, with subscribers to the service gaining access through a network of resellers. For how much longer that will be the case will remain to be seen, as the service is now being sued in the United States.

In a lawsuit filed by DISH Networks and NagraStar yesterday, the broadcaster names Ontario, Canada-based Tomasz Kaczmarek as the operator of IPGuys.

“Kaczmarek operates an illicit streaming service called IPGuys, where he acquires DISH’s satellite broadcasts of television programming and retransmits that programming without authorization to customers of his IPGuys service,” the complaint reads.

According to DISH, Brooklyn, New York-based husband and wife team John and Julia Defoe participate in the “rebroadcasting scheme” by creating and maintaining DISH subscription accounts that are used to supply the IPGuy’s service with DISH’s programming.

The additional Does 1-10 are described as “one or more persons” responsible for DISH subscription accounts that were created with false information and used to supply DISH content to the scheme.

DISH says the accounts were created through a former retailer in Brooklyn named Ratiann Enterprise Inc. and registered to addresses in the same area. The company hopes that the discovery process will enable it to identify the people behind those accounts.

The suit states that DISH used technical means to determine that the content being offered by IPGuys originated from its satellite broadcasts.

“During testing of the IPGuys service, encoded messages delivered as part of DISH’s satellite communications were detected on the DISH Programming retransmitted on the IPGuys service, confirming the DISH Programming provided by Kaczmarek is originating from DISH’s satellite communications and DISH subscriber accounts,” the complaint reads.

Seven of the so-called “seeder accounts” (the accounts that allegedly provided the content to IPGuys) shared one or more credit cards as the source of payment and all had either the same passwords or password hints, DISH adds.

Furthermore, the same credit cards were also used to pay for “at least twenty” additional subscriber accounts established with false information. One of the twenty accounts was held in the name of John Defoe, DISH claims, adding that Kaczmarek sent Julia Defoe “tens of thousands of dollars”, while specifically mentioning DISH.

From here, DISH begins to tackle some of the resellers of the IPGuys service, which offered the roughly $15 per month packages to the public. The primary sellers are named in the suit as Romie IPTV World, IPTV Bazaar, GetIPTVOnline and IPGuys-Live. Two secondary sellers are named as The Napster and Miracle Media Box Media.

DISH states that Kaczmarek and the Defoes were given notice by the company that their activities violated various aspects of the Federal Communications Act back in April 2019, but the IPGuys service continued to operate.

As a result, DISH is now demanding a broad permanent injunction against all defendants, plus actual or statutory damages of between $10,000 and $100,000 per violation, plus costs.

DISH’s complaint against the IPGuys operation can be found here (pdf)

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Written by David Minister

Last Updated on August 22nd, 2019 at 05:45 pm

[jedi]

Yeah I remember running url helper while checking out those guys and their dish dvr info came up lol but it comes up on a service sold here too!

How would the dish DVR info come up? Was the source a dish live stream?

[scarecrow]

so is this the beginning of the end for all?
hope not.

[dishuser]

so is this the beginning of the end for all?
hope not.

the beginning?
they aren't the first...far from it

[nobodyspecial]

here is the pdf

[The Noof]

Dang....I wonder if that's Tom from digitalclinic that used to mod vip irds'?The address jives.Hope not.

[leafs99]

Dang....I wonder if that's Tom from digitalclinic that used to mod vip irds'?The address jives.Hope not.

paragraph 19 explains it all

regards

[Highwayman]

It is true and Romie IPTV World also on the list. Here is a copy and paste

Those involved in the sale of unlicensed IPTV services appear to be coming under attack from an increasing number of angles.

Just this week, the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment confirmed that it was behind the closure of previously popular IPTV service Vader Streams.

Just days earlier, the UK’s Federation Against Copyright Theft said it had served cease-and-desist notices in 16 locations to individuals involved in the supply of infringing sports streams, with at least some acting as resellers of ‘pirate’ IPTV services.

Today, another well-known provider is added to the growing list.

IPGuys is a recognized brand in the IPTV space. It has no website of its own, with subscribers to the service gaining access through a network of resellers. For how much longer that will be the case will remain to be seen, as the service is now being sued in the United States.

In a lawsuit filed by DISH Networks and NagraStar yesterday, the broadcaster names Ontario, Canada-based Tomasz Kaczmarek as the operator of IPGuys.

“Kaczmarek operates an illicit streaming service called IPGuys, where he acquires DISH’s satellite broadcasts of television programming and retransmits that programming without authorization to customers of his IPGuys service,” the complaint reads.

According to DISH, Brooklyn, New York-based husband and wife team John and Julia Defoe participate in the “rebroadcasting scheme” by creating and maintaining DISH subscription accounts that are used to supply the IPGuy’s service with DISH’s programming.

The additional Does 1-10 are described as “one or more persons” responsible for DISH subscription accounts that were created with false information and used to supply DISH content to the scheme.

DISH says the accounts were created through a former retailer in Brooklyn named Ratiann Enterprise Inc. and registered to addresses in the same area. The company hopes that the discovery process will enable it to identify the people behind those accounts.

The suit states that DISH used technical means to determine that the content being offered by IPGuys originated from its satellite broadcasts.

“During testing of the IPGuys service, encoded messages delivered as part of DISH’s satellite communications were detected on the DISH Programming retransmitted on the IPGuys service, confirming the DISH Programming provided by Kaczmarek is originating from DISH’s satellite communications and DISH subscriber accounts,” the complaint reads.

Seven of the so-called “seeder accounts” (the accounts that allegedly provided the content to IPGuys) shared one or more credit cards as the source of payment and all had either the same passwords or password hints, DISH adds.

Furthermore, the same credit cards were also used to pay for “at least twenty” additional subscriber accounts established with false information. One of the twenty accounts was held in the name of John Defoe, DISH claims, adding that Kaczmarek sent Julia Defoe “tens of thousands of dollars”, while specifically mentioning DISH.

From here, DISH begins to tackle some of the resellers of the IPGuys service, which offered the roughly $15 per month packages to the public. The primary sellers are named in the suit as Romie IPTV World, IPTV Bazaar, GetIPTVOnline and IPGuys-Live. Two secondary sellers are named as The Napster and Miracle Media Box Media.

DISH states that Kaczmarek and the Defoes were given notice by the company that their activities violated various aspects of the Federal Communications Act back in April 2019, but the IPGuys service continued to operate.

As a result, DISH is now demanding a broad permanent injunction against all defendants, plus actual or statutory damages of between $10,000 and $100,000 per violation, plus costs.

DISH’s complaint against the IPGuys operation can be found here (pdf)

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Written by David Minister

Last Updated on August 22nd, 2019 at 05:45 pm


How would the dish DVR info come up? Was the source a dish live stream?

I dont know what technical means they used but if i can find it so can they and more.
Where they mentioned ipguys didnt have a website and they still got their info
those with the websites like vaders watch out !

[scarecrow]

is the service shut down?

[The Noof]

paragraph 19 explains it all

regards

You,re correct...it does, & it is him.I didn't read much past his name.Seems they had their sights on him since his ird modding days.

[johnnylarue]

How would the dish DVR info come up? Was the source a dish live stream?

I guess they can grab the card/ird details from the streams. It looks like only one of the seeders 20 accounts had legit info, and it cost them. It must have been a pretty shady dishnet retailer that set up those fake info accounts. That is probably why he is not longer a dishnet retailer.

[Highwayman]

I guess they can grab the card/ird details from the streams. It looks like only one of the seeders 20 accounts had legit info, and it cost them. It must have been a pretty shady dishnet retailer that set up those fake info accounts. That is probably why he is not longer a dishnet retailer.

Bingo!You would be surprised what you find you wouldnt even need to sub.
I dont think they needed any technical means someone on their server
fell asleep and let their dish info screen onto a channel selection for all to see
at that time is when it will show up on url grabbers you dont need to be on that specific
channel either. Think about it how did that info get to dish were they being watched and why or did someone
squeal?I am surprised that they werent using hacked accounts.

[johnnylarue]

Bingo!You would be surprised what you find you wouldnt even need to sub.
I dont think they needed any technical means someone on their server
fell asleep and let their dish info screen onto a channel selection for all to see
at that time is when it will show up on url grabbers you dont need to be on that specific
channel either. Think about it how did that info get to dish were they being watched and why or did someone
squeal?I am surprised that they werent using hacked accounts.

I've seen that on a few streams. The stream go down and the ird/card number is there for all to see. Easy way to catch them! lol

[runamok]

I have seen a message run across screen from direct saying*you are streaming this channel*

[jedi]

Dish can see the receiver and card information anytime they want - they can embed it into the stream - we can't see it but they can - it is called televes watermarking.

If you are a seeder - all they have to do is buy a subscription to an IPTV service and watch any channel they want - they can see the receiver ID number that is the source for that channel.
There is no way to remove that watermark.

Here is a copy and paste from Televes webpage:

Dish Network™, the US Satellite Operator, approves Televes Watermarking on its suite of Clear QAM Encoders
20/05/2014
Televes has received approval from Dish Network (http://www.dish.com/) -one of the main TV Satellite Operators in the USA, with 14 million subscribers- for its Watermarking solution on its suite of Clear QAM Encoders. Watermarking is the process of hiding digital information to verify the authenticity or integrity of the signal or to show the identity of its owners. Televes Clear QAM Encoders offers invisible watermarking as an option for forensic video analysis in an effort to prevent piracy.

Juan Molezun, director of the International Division, said: “We are very pleased to have received approval of our watermarking solution from Dish Network. This is the next step in expanding the market for our professional quality encoders.”

All versions of Clear QAM Encoders provide Dolby Digital from analogue or digital inputs, closed captioning, EAS support, and include ASI input and output for easy EAS signal management, all with the innovative Televes integrated RF combiner. They encode both MPEG-2 and H.264 and offer the full remote control functionality that any T.0X headend module supports. For these reasons, they are ideal for any video distribution integration. “Be it for distributing full HD video cost effectively in the home or a commercial HD installation, our Clear QAM Encoder output distributed over standard coax, on any modern TV, provides top quality”, affirmed Molezun.

What is watermarking?

A digital watermark is a marker embedded in the image data. It is typically used to identify ownership of the copyright of such signal. “Watermarking” is the process of hiding digital information to verify the authenticity or integrity of the signal or to show the identity of its owners. It is prominently used for tracing copyright infringements and for banknote authentication. Like traditional watermarks, digital watermarks are only perceptible under certain conditions, for example using some algorithm (watermarking detection), and imperceptible anytime else for the naked eye. Since a digital copy of data is the same as the original, digital watermarking is a passive protection tool. It just marks data, but does not degrade it nor controls access to the data.

In this case, Televes encoders hide the serial number of the Dish Network set-top box making it invisible to the human eye, but unalterable to any recoding or retransmitting from other video devices such as a camcorder. In case unauthorized publications, the Televes encoder recuperates the STB serial number to identify the source of the coded image.

About Televes

Televes is a leading global company focusing on the design, development and manufacture of systems and products associated with telecommunications services for the home, and specialising in reception and broadcast of television signals. The company’s headquarters are located in Santiago de Compostela (Spain), where the company was founded in 1958. At present, Televes is the head of a Corporation formed by 20 subsidiaries (technological, industrial or commercial), near 700 employees and 53 invention patents.

Televes has nine international subsidiaries in Portugal, France, UK, Italy, Germany, Poland, UAE, China and USA, and distributes its products to more than one hundred countries on five continents through an extensive network of distributors. Throughout its 55 years of experience, Televes has launched more than 1,500 different products, an achievement that is understood from the company´s real passion for manufacturing. The company produces at its own facilities to ensure the highest quality. To achieve this, it has been a pioneer in the implementation of automated robotised lines and has its own testing and quality control laboratories. Therefore, the brand’s products proudly display the "European Technology Made in Europe" stamp.

About Dish Networks

Dish Network is an American direct-broadcast satellite service provider. The company provides satellite television, satellite internet, audio programming, and interactive television services to commercial and residential customers in the United States. As of November 2013, the company provided services to just over fourteen million subscribers and has approximately 34,000 employees (with more than 25,000 employees located within the United States). The company is headquartered in Meridian, Colorado.

[jedi]

Bingo!You would be surprised what you find you wouldnt even need to sub.
I dont think they needed any technical means someone on their server
fell asleep and let their dish info screen onto a channel selection for all to see
at that time is when it will show up on url grabbers you dont need to be on that specific
channel either. Think about it how did that info get to dish were they being watched and why or did someone
squeal?I am surprised that they werent using hacked accounts.

When you were using URL Helper - what was showing up for you to see?
How did you identify it as a Dishnet stream?

If the IPTV service is using Dishnet as a source and then encoding and streaming a channel - I would think the URL info for the IPTV service would show up - how are you seeing Dishnet as the source?

[Highwayman]

When you were using URL Helper - what was showing up for you to see?
How did you identify it as a Dishnet stream?



I always run url helper/wireshark when checking out iptv services i dont remember which channel i was checking out think it was espn when you start a stream url helper captures the IPTV services link first then you may depending on the stream you may get additional info depending if your watching regular tv or movies and tv shows you may get the suppliers links if there is one which if you sub and it expires you still have the suppliers links they will still work without usernames and passwords thats another story.

For the dishnet xml to come up the iptv operator could have done a number of things
while restreaming you have to watch everything while you restream!

It shows up as a xml file, copy and paste the xml to your browser and it shows the dishnet info screen
model receiver smartcard and location id its all there.

Now you need to check this by running another stream after espn if nothing you go back to espn if it shows
a mistake was made on the espn channel by the operator.

[streame]

Hard to believe one of the best iptv services shutting down.

[maird57]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true:lala:

[dishuser]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true:lala:
so you're saying this is bogus?

[herk]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true:lala:

I know Romie had a knock on his door and it wasnt the avon lady

[jedi]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true:lala:

It's true and he's been on NagraStar's most wanted list for years - dating back to the start of IKS. None of the resellers have been able to collect that bounty on his head yet - and I'm not sure if they ever will.

[surfinisfun]

It's true and he's been on NagraStar's most wanted list for years - dating back to the start of IKS. None of the resellers have been able to collect that bounty on his head yet - and I'm not sure if they ever will.

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.

[dishuser]

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.
key words
modded receivers;)

[jedi]

key words
modded receivers;)

Yep you got it - also ran one of the biggest and best IKS servers around for many years

[jedi]

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.

No - Romie was just a Super Reseller - I'm talking about the head honcho of IPGuys

[surfinisfun]

No - Romie was just a Super Reseller - I'm talking about the head honcho of IPGuys

K, thanks. After a little more reading in this there.....I'm up to speed.

[Neil Armstrong]

If you look on Google Earth they show the back of a guy walking in to that address in Gloucester..

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

So guess the next big question could there be end user demand letters coming down the pike and what precautions can you take now ( although it might be too late ) to be prepared for it if you had a subscribed membership. If end user demand letters were to come it would be months away. The defendants live in the US and are looking at serious damages the Plaintiffs could be awarded with reasonable chances to pursue assets of defendents like property ( their house ) if they want to make them an example of what could happen.



GS2

[dishuser]

So guess the next big question could there be end user demand letters coming down the pike and what precautions can you take now ( although it might be too late ) to be prepared for it if you had a subscribed membership. If end user demand letters were to come it would be months away. The defendants live in the US and are looking at serious damages the Plaintiffs could be awarded with reasonable chances to pursue assets of defendents like property if they want to make them an example of what could happen.



GS2

the main guy lives close to you not in the US

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Yup, I just quickly glance and first thing I saw was defendents in the US. The guy in Canada is still quite exposed. Not sure if he will reply seeking dismissal claiming they don't have jurisdiction on him. If he does likely to lose. If they get a judgment against him then they have to come to a Canadian Court to seek enforcing that foreign judgment against him. Most previous cases Canadian courts granted the enforcrment. If Canada has similar law or case law that favors the plaintiffs then likely to grant it. They can then go after his assets including his home if he has one. Best to live in Florida like OJ or some other state where your house can not be seized from a civil judgment.

They can try to obtained end user records from either defendents if they both have them.



GS2

[dishuser]

Yup, I just quickly glance and first thing I saw was defendents in the US. The guy in Canada is still quite exposed. Not sure if he will reply seeking dismissal claiming they don't have jurisdiction on him. If he does likely to lose. If they get a judgment against him then they have to come to a Canadian Court to seek enforcing that foreign judgment against him. Most previous cases Canadian courts granted the enforcrment. If Canada has similar law or case law that favors the plaintiffs then likely to grant it. They can then go after his assets including his home if he has one. Best to live in Florida like OJ or some other state where your house can not be seized from a civil judgment.

They can try to obtained end user records from either defendents if they both have them.



GS2

they took rudy's house and restaurant ;)

[johnnylarue]

they took rudy's house and restaurant ;)
Rudy died, if it us the same guy that I'm thinking about.

[dishuser]

Rudy died, if it us the same guy that I'm thinking about.

still took his house and business 14 years ago
they have the power in canada
his mistake was after getting busted for a blocker site during nagra was hiring dan caban as his webmaster during nagra 2

[johnnylarue]

still took his house and business 14 years ago
they have the power in canada
his mistake was after getting busted for a blocker site during nagra was hiring dan caban as his webmaster during nagra 2

you are right.
he and about 6 others got AP'd & raided the same day in July. My brother's associate got nailed because of his business relationship with Jeremy.

[johnnylarue]

Yep you got it - also ran one of the biggest and best IKS servers around for many years

He used to do nozkt mods on 420's in his early days.

[dishuser]

you are right.
he and about 6 others got AP'd & raided the same day in July. My brother's associate got nailed because of his business relationship with Jeremy.

12 of us were booked for a limo ride to montreal for a double header in march when they raided skyhigh electronics
they should have waited another 6 hours...lol