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granpaw
05-26-2018, 04:27 AM
Hello, I’m not sure if this can be done but how would one hook up three dreamlink t5 receivers pointing at the north bird with only a single lnb? Can each of the three cables be simply tied into a splitter going to this single lnb?
Does my friend need three lnb’s off the one dish?
Thanks for any help here guys.

dishuser
05-26-2018, 04:41 AM
Hello, I’m not sure if this can be done but how would one hook up three dreamlink t5 receivers pointing at the north bird with only a single lnb? Can each of the three cables be simply tied into a splitter going to this single lnb?
Does my friend need three lnb’s off the one dish?
Thanks for any help here guys.
one lnb?
get a quad

granpaw
05-26-2018, 07:25 AM
Thanks dishuser
So a quad with separate cables running to each receiver.
I’m still confused...wouldn’t a quad be aiming at different sats? He just wants one sat

fn59
05-26-2018, 10:17 AM
Bell uses 2 satellites.
Quad is the easiest way.

dishuser
05-26-2018, 01:07 PM
Thanks dishuser
So a quad with separate cables running to each receiver.
I’m still confused...wouldn’t a quad be aiming at different sats? He just wants one sat

a quad will get 2 two sats to four boxes
example
110/119 or 82/91

auggie
05-26-2018, 01:43 PM
You could do one legacy LNB dual to a 3x4 multi-switch

granpaw
05-27-2018, 12:30 AM
a quad will get 2 two sats to four boxes
example
110/119 or 82/91

Thanks, so 2 boxes 91 and 2 boxes 82. I think he may like this idea. No switches involved. What’s the best place to buy a quad and will it work on 18” round dish or have to be elliptical.’

nobodyspecial
05-27-2018, 12:34 AM
Thanks, so 2 boxes 91 and 2 boxes 82. I think he may like this idea. No switches involved. What’s the best place to buy a quad and will it work on 18” round dish or have to be elliptical.’

try ebay...

sat9182
05-27-2018, 01:10 AM
Thanks, so 2 boxes 91 and 2 boxes 82. I think he may like this idea. No switches involved. What’s the best place to buy a quad and will it work on 18” round dish or have to be elliptical.’

no 4 boxes with both 91 82 at same time :)
18” round dish will work fine make sure it has the y yoke on the end

dishuser
05-27-2018, 05:45 AM
haven't seen an 18" dish in over 20 years...lol

fn59
05-27-2018, 01:02 PM
haven't seen an 18" dish in over 20 years...lol

A lot of 18" dishes that have been in the elements have rusted nuts and bolts, and the plastic cover for the feedhorn is starting to crack.

Terryl
05-27-2018, 04:18 PM
no 4 boxes with both 91 82 at same time :)
18” round dish will work fine make sure it has the y yoke on the end
To be effective and gather the most signal a Dish 500 pan should be used with a DP quad LNB, an 18" round dish will not have the correct beamwidth for two satellites spaced 9 to10 degrees apart.

If you look at a Dish 500 it is not truly round.

If you have DP or a DPP type LNB's on the dish now and want to add more receivers then a DP44 switch can be added to the system, however is it is an old legacy type setup then a SW34 or SW44 switch needs to be used.

The two types do not play well with each other if mixed, if a legacy system the a legacy switch is needed, if the newer band-stacking LNB's are used (both satellites on one coax) then the DP or DPP type switches need to be used.

Terryl
05-27-2018, 04:20 PM
Some around here are re-purposing the old 18 inchers for 5 GHz reflectors on the microwave internet service we use here in the boonies.

granpaw
05-27-2018, 06:54 PM
Thanks everyone for the help.
I guess my friend can look at buying this one ( hope I’m allowed to post a dead link here)
hXXps://m.ebay.com/itm/DPP-Quad-Dish-500-Bell-ExpressVu-20-DPP-Quad-LNB-2-DPP-Separator/271831909299?hash=item3f4a71c3b3:g:X90AAOSwx2dYCNN 5
It cheap enough right?

Terryl
05-27-2018, 06:59 PM
That will work...Everything but the DPP separators, those will only work with Dish or Bell OEM receivers.

granpaw
05-27-2018, 07:09 PM
Ah, perfect!! I was going to ask about the separators, now I know:innocent:

granpaw
05-27-2018, 07:26 PM
One more question, what other receiver works on north bird other than Dreamlink for testing purpose these days??? Easy to setup, cheap to buy.

vapor
05-27-2018, 08:26 PM
Thanks everyone for the help.
I guess my friend can look at buying this one ( hope I’m allowed to post a dead link here)
hXXps://m.ebay.com/itm/DPP-Quad-Dish-500-Bell-ExpressVu-20-DPP-Quad-LNB-2-DPP-Separator/271831909299?hash=item3f4a71c3b3:g:X90AAOSwx2dYCNN 5
It cheap enough right?

Need to check or ask the seller about that y-yoke pictured. Looks to be a y-yoke designed for a single and not that quad 27223. Maybe a stock picture just for reference but be worth checking before you purchased...your call.

auggie
05-27-2018, 09:50 PM
Again if your friend only wants to point at "ONE" north Bird with a single LNB
A legacy single with dual outs (2-ports) hooked to a 3x4 switch would be easy

dishuser
05-27-2018, 10:22 PM
Need to check or ask the seller about that y-yoke pictured. Looks to be a y-yoke designed for a single and not that quad 27223. Maybe a stock picture just for reference but be worth checking before you purchased...your call.

in that pic there is no yoke
just caps

granpaw
05-28-2018, 01:37 AM
Thanks for pointing that out guys! Hell, that maybe why it’s so cheap...:okay:

granpaw
05-28-2018, 02:23 AM
Again if your friend only wants to point at "ONE" north Bird with a single LNB
A legacy single with dual outs (2-ports) hooked to a 3x4 switch would be easy


Again if your friend only wants to point at "ONE" north Bird with a single LNB
A legacy single with dual outs (2-ports) hooked to a 3x4 switch would be easy

Thanks,
All my old legacy singles have dual outputs, good for two receivers without any switches but a 3x4 switch could control up to four receivers off that one lnb?
Switch could be inside, out of the weather. He can just run two cables from the dish and go from there.
I will explain this to him.
Is there a drawing of this somewhere or simple like 1&2 off one cable and 3&4 off the second cable?
Thing is he needs a pan anyway and I’m just wondering if the quad switching isn’t better than the 3x4 switch’s. The ones I remember were like 100 bucks, too much. Edit: I see them on fleabay for like 15 bucks (terk 3x4 multi switch)
I think the dreamlink handles most switching alright but what do I know, I always used a motor for fta.

auggie
05-28-2018, 04:02 AM
Legacy stuff, switches anyways work off 13volt and 18volt switching, so that (terk 3x4 multi switch) you saw on fleabay
would work fine, 2-cables from LNB to switch, one to 13v, and one to 18v, there is a extra port on the switch (3-in total) that is
for a outdoor antenna, The 3x4 is setup for one Sat/Bird, out to as many as 4-receivers.
Hope this makes sense, for your friend that only wants to point at "ONE" north Bird

Mavrick
05-28-2018, 10:15 PM
We should also point out that if your friend wants to hit more than 1 sat he will need a dish that skews (turns like a steering wheel) in order to grab 2 sats, if not he will need to set up a "poor mans dish" and need 2 single lnb's and a hose clamp to off-set the lnb's to grab 2 sats. Below are some pic's you asked for.........

jedi
05-29-2018, 06:06 AM
One more question, what other receiver works on north bird other than Dreamlink for testing purpose these days??? Easy to setup, cheap to buy.

You can pick up the North 91'W sat that broadcast the standard def channels with an old DreamBox 500-S - they're dirt cheap.

granpaw
06-02-2018, 04:11 AM
Legacy stuff, switches anyways work off 13volt and 18volt switching, so that (terk 3x4 multi switch) you saw on fleabay
would work fine, 2-cables from LNB to switch, one to 13v, and one to 18v, there is a extra port on the switch (3-in total) that is
for a outdoor antenna, The 3x4 is setup for one Sat/Bird, out to as many as 4-receivers.
Hope this makes sense, for your friend that only wants to point at "ONE" north Bird

This is perfect man, thank you for all the info. Now he can stay out of the bar and do something useful...lol.

granpaw
06-02-2018, 04:26 AM
We should also point out that if your friend wants to hit more than 1 sat he will need a dish that skews (turns like a steering wheel) in order to grab 2 sats, if not he will need to set up a "poor mans dish" and need 2 single lnb's and a hose clamp to off-set the lnb's to grab 2 sats. Below are some pic's you asked for.........

Hey Mavrick, he may want to aim to the sky for another, once he gets hooked on this stuff.
Thanks for the pics, this will be very helpful for him.

granpaw
06-02-2018, 05:04 AM
You can pick up the North 91'W sat that broadcast the standard def channels with an old DreamBox 500-S - they're dirt cheap.

Thanks jedi, the old DM500s. Does one need a module for sd on 91? Or, I guess that module only needed for hd -82 sat. So even a standard limesat or ilink receiver would work for 91 ??

jedi
06-02-2018, 03:17 PM
Thanks jedi, the old DM500s. Does one need a module for sd on 91? Or, I guess that module only needed for hd -82 sat. So even a standard limesat or ilink receiver would work for 91 ??

No module needed for standard def channels on 91'W - they do make an HD module for those DM500s receivers to pick up the 82'W hi def channels