water softener

[lobsterpot]

bought a repo house , it had an old water softener . i see that the water is rusty looking in the toilet . it isn't staining ,but i need some kind of a system for sure . i will never drink the water cause i love my bottled water. are there any other fellow sat fixers that have water systems ? which ones are good and what should i stay away from ? thank you for your info on this matter if you can help me.

[tbird686]

is it well water?

yellow red is iron you need an iron filter system

they usually use both the iron and then a softener, you my need to change the resin in the softner if its old

[lobsterpot]

well water , i'm wanting a new modern system and it seems to be brown red

[tbird686]

ya there all the same, you might even need the well shocked then go from there


there must be a local water company who sells all the goodies and they will know the area the best. might even have a better set up.


but ya a softner is not enough to pull out the iron. i use to be a industrial water tech lol


its usually you need iron filter to get rid of the iron, then softener for the rest then carbon filter for the smell then ro if you really have money and want clean water.........the first three and the norm.

[nobodyspecial]

bought a repo house , it had an old water softener . i see that the water is rusty looking in the toilet . it isn't staining ,but i need some kind of a system for sure . i will never drink the water cause i love my bottled water. are there any other fellow sat fixers that have water systems ? which ones are good and what should i stay away from ? thank you for your info on this matter if you can help me.

A lot of bottled water is just tap water...lol

[The Noof]

I would have a water sample tested Lobsterpot, & see what you need to adress.Lots of well water sysems have contaminates that shouldn't even touch your skin...never mind drink.If you're near any farms, ecoli is a concern, ect.

[tbird686]

ya you have all kinds of bad water in the states i remember years ago the company was doing a job in clear water Florida

it was for the municipal water system they added a side stream filter system........to remove arsenic


we were only taking out some not all lol they didnt want to pay for that
just take out enough to meet standards not beat standards what a shame


ya and most bottled water is ro water......here we get sprig water i like that better but at the end of the day tap water is still save for us i have the fridge with the ice maker i fill my bottle with ice and water everyday....

[lobsterpot]

ya there all the same, you might even need the well shocked then go from there


there must be a local water company who sells all the goodies and they will know the area the best. might even have a better set up.


but ya a softner is not enough to pull out the iron. i use to be a industrial water tech lol


its usually you need iron filter to get rid of the iron, then softener for the rest then carbon filter for the smell then ro if you really have money and want clean water.........the first three and the norm.

yea I got the first two , no smell though. or at least I can't smell it. I just moved here a few days ago. i had to put in a new water pump cause the old one was shot. that's when i noticed the rust. the inside of the toilet is brown. thank you for your help

[Terryl]

Some Home Depot's offer free water testing, and you can look at their systems they offer.

The water here is so full of iron you can walk on it, but I do not like the taste of softened water, so I installed a reverse osmosis system for the kitchen sink, bathrooms and fridge, (I split the output 4 ways) each sink have their own spigots, works great.

Note: you have to change the prefilter and membrane filter quite often due to the excessive iron but it's cheaper then bottled water.(you make your own this way)

[jazzman]

Memories...we had a culligan salesman come to our house in Denver and after 2 hours of of BS I went to bed as I had to be at work in a few short hours and we wound up with the whole system plus reverse osmosis at the kitchen sink. Soft water it was but I didn't like it much. So when we moved to NE she just had to have it again so I went online and found a system and plumbed all in myself with PVC and to this day she still has it and likes it. She carries in all the salt it takes herslelf now as we are no longer together but oh well, that's life lol. I suppose it's better but to me water is water lol.

[lobsterpot]

just had a local guy in . he says I need an inline filter to clean up what comes in. he going to rebuild what is here , some tall skinny tank . going to cost 1800 cnd . does that sound ok?

[Terryl]

Seeing that the iron filters alone are from $500 to $1200 alone then he is on track, he is charging you some bucks for the install.


Here is some info for you on the filters.

https://www.cleanwaterstore.com/iron-filter-pro-ox-air.html#item=FE012480&tab=tab1

[lobsterpot]

is the water store in canada or america ?

[Terryl]

It's in Santa Cruz, California, but has discounted shipping outside of the US, free shipping in the US on orders over $100

[got2bme]

Does the water come out of the tap clear........then after a while turns brown? The you have "clear iron" and you need a chlorination system. Cost 3 to 4 grand ca.

[runamok]

What kind of pump is used above or submerged?Your foot valve or submerged pump could be at the bottom sucking up mud.What is your water level top to bottom?

[lobsterpot]

Does the water come out of the tap clear........then after a while turns brown? The you have "clear iron" and you need a chlorination system. Cost 3 to 4 grand ca.

nope comes out the tap rusty looking . if you run a bathroom sink full , it looks rusty.

[lobsterpot]

What kind of pump is used above or submerged?Your foot valve or submerged pump could be at the bottom sucking up mud.What is your water level top to bottom?

a jet pump , bought it at home hardware. when I look down the well I can see the bottom it's really clear, I can see the foot valve and it ain't on the bottom.

[stuman]

How long was the house empty? Pipes could be stained from sitting.

[lobsterpot]

How long was the house empty? Pipes could be stained from sitting.

the house sat for about 4 months , the water seems clearer today, but still kinda rusty looking. water guy is due to come back today.

[Dodgem]

a jet pump , bought it at home hardware. when I look down the well I can see the bottom it's really clear, I can see the foot valve and it ain't on the bottom.

One other problem that i encountered after buying my place. Hot water tank,turn it of (gas or electric).Then turn off the water and put a hose to the drain on the tank.Run it outside then open the drain and turn the water back on clean all the sediment that is sitting in the bottom of the tank.You may find rusty crap at the bottom of the tank.

[lobsterpot]

ok , here's what happened. i had an existing system . he changed the bottle out and some nose cone thingy. this unit you have to add salt. it was here when i bought the place. he also add an another bottle unit made by hydrotech. the second bottle is a little bigger than the first and it doesn't take salt. he add this iron and magnseum **** to the bottle, cause he left the bag the pelts came in on the basement floor. he told me to drain the hot water tank and i did. there was a little crap in it . the big thing is now i can see the bottom of the toilet bowl. you couldn't see thur the rusty water. i brushed in bottled water. like really holy *uck. my gf is not upset either anymore. i 've never had water like that in my life. best money i spent yet.