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cryman2001
07-19-2015, 12:08 PM
Whith the popularity of iptv it's only a matter of time before the big 2 tv player start
putting pressure to limited expansion of iptv.They will try to find ip of people and seller.
I'm asking if anybody as try iptv with vpn and what speed you need to have smooth tv.
is all supplier accept vpn connextion to there account ?

c8rbk1ng
07-19-2015, 08:30 PM
You don't need to get a service! Eventually all these 'services' will ruin this 'hobby' as they have done with plastic and soon to be IKS. You can get most of the same channels for FREE and don't need to worry about them finding your mac addy and IP. Yes you can use VPNs but then the speed will depend on your internet speed and the speed of your VPN.

jedi
07-20-2015, 02:11 AM
I agree a lot of these channels some could find if you are fairly computer literate -but there are a lot of TV watchers that either can't or don't want to learn how to.

There is a large market of people that would prefer to pay people to do the heavy lifting for them - and from what I've seen it is pretty inexpensive.
Once some of these services are established you will start to see some channels that you won't see on the free servers - like Fox Sports regional channels, live PPV movies, MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA and your local ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and PBS channels. For us Canucks they already have pretty coverage for our local CBC and Global, etc channels but the US locals is a huge undertaking.

I know you can find some of the content broadcast from some of these channels - but you have to do a little bit of searching to find what you want - and for some they either can't do it and prefer to pay someone to do it for them - so where is the harm.

I don't have a problem with any of these IKS or IPTV services - without them developing these services there would be a lot of people without good options for their TV watching. BTW a lot of what these big boys do trickles down to the little guys and makes it possible for us to do our own thing if we so chose :-)

If these guys don't get paid who is going to spend their own money to develop new technology for the future. Do you really think Raton and PGM did everything they did for FREE??? :-;
Without guys like that there would be no "Hobby".
If you don't want to pay - that is fine - everyone always has the option to sit back - not pay and reap the rewards of the guys that don't mind paying to develop this so called "hobby"

c8rbk1ng
07-20-2015, 04:11 AM
The guys that "developed this so called hobby" are not the guys charging for these services. They have come along and granted, may have improved and made things easier for the 'free TVer' but they will kill IPTV just like they did plastic and IKS. The Providers didn't care about a few thousand pirates until the 'big boys' came around and started making oodles of money. That made the providers mad and that's when the you know what hit the fan. This used to be a community of sharing...for free! Now it's full of scammers and thieves and those who are 'legit' only want to make their quick money and get out. IMO paying for these services will only aid in bringing an eventual if not early demise to IPTV.

jedi
07-20-2015, 05:57 AM
You make a good point and everyone is entitled to their opinion - but IMO without the big pay services we wouldn't have anywhere near the services that we have today. <br />
I go back a...

Nostradamus
07-20-2015, 01:53 PM
The guys that "developed this so called hobby" are not the guys charging for these services. They have come along and granted, may have improved and made things easier for the 'free TVer' but they will kill IPTV just like they did plastic and IKS. The Providers didn't care about a few thousand pirates until the 'big boys' came around and started making oodles of money. That made the providers mad and that's when the you know what hit the fan. This used to be a community of sharing...for free! Now it's full of scammers and thieves and those who are 'legit' only want to make their quick money and get out. IMO paying for these services will only aid in bringing an eventual if not early demise to IPTV.

couldn't agree more with the above statement

Jedi has been around a long time and while it is true even the pioneers got paid it was a whole lot different back then. Money relied on quality box sales filtering down. Then N2 died and and IKS was born. Actually more like re-born as it was already around. 90% of the people declared they would never do anything so stupid and box sales plummeted. So to entice people back into the fold they started making cheaply made units at half the price (no where near as good as the original pansat 2500 clones were) and guess what happened?

All these people who said they would never do IKS started wandering back. The manufacturer now had control over the software and if one model was too crappy well just rebrand it and sell it as something else. The people will get fed up with the original junk they bought and buy a new unit (LOL with the same problems). IKS is winding down fast so again they are looking for a cheap easy fix.

Now where we are at today.

You can buy an android box, subscribe to a service and watch TV. Most people will go with the cheapest route again and are only asking for trouble. Not enough RAM and low end processors. Sound familiar? Same problems that plagued most of the boxes designed for FTA / IKS. Then they will try and upgrade the box and totally mess it up because a box that will run XBMC may not be able to handle Kodi.

Others will buy a pre-configured box that can not be updated without rooting the unit. That is a pain to begin with and there is only 2 reasons for that. Either the manufacturer already has the unit maxxed out to begin with or they intend to updating the software on the next model up.

So live and learn really. If you want to take shortcuts or save money be prepared for frustration. How many people have seen any channel redundancy in their channel listings? If I want to watch BBC One not a problem for me. I can click a link on favorites and see 4 of them pop up. Two HD & two SD options. If one doesn't work I try another and watch TV. You are not going to get that with any service. It is either there or it isn't. I guess there is always the option of subscribing to a second service and hoping they are using a different link to the channel but with all the leeching going on, rebranding of the same service, etc the odds are not in your favor there either.

CAVEAT EMPTOR !

c8rbk1ng
07-20-2015, 06:59 PM
I guess you would prefer to be one of the elite group that has the knowledge and access to free TV and screw the rest of the guys that don't have the knowledge or connections but don't mind paying for it.
You would prefer to keep it a "secret club" that only a select few can belong to and reap the benefits of someone else's endeavours???
It seems some guys don't want to pay for it - but they don't mind leaching off the efforts of others.

There are very few here that could do any of this on their own without the help of others in the past - and I don't mind that they somehow received a small pitance of what they should have received.

Don't put words into my mouth. I've have also been around since the beginning when this was a sharing community (and underground for a while). I don't want to not share with everyone, I just don't like that certain individuals who had/have nothing to do with the development of the technology getting rich and not giving back to the community. You pay for a year and only get 6 months...to bad, so sad! They get busted and instead of taking their medicine they'll throw you under the bus quicker that you can say "Carter's Little Liver Pills". I don't mind someone like Tarnovsky getting his 30 pieces of silver, I just don't like the leeches that come afterwards. Why did it become so popular? Because you could load a bin/file into an ird and watch 2 providers with basically no knowledge of how anything works. When the 'free TVers' came along there was just too many of them for the SI guys to ignore and so began the demand letters etc. That's why I say they ruined plastic and IKS. Wait and see...don't know when it will happen but they will ruin IPTV also. JMO and you have yours so let's just agree to disagree.

c8rbk1ng
07-20-2015, 07:03 PM
couldn't agree more with the above statement

Jedi has been around a long time and while it is true even the pioneers got paid it was a whole lot different back then. Money relied on quality box sales filtering down. Then N2 died and and IKS was born. Actually more like re-born as it was already around. 90% of the people declared they would never do anything so stupid and box sales plummeted. So to entice people back into the fold they started making cheaply made units at half the price (no where near as good as the original pansat 2500 clones were) and guess what happened?

All these people who said they would never do IKS started wandering back. The manufacturer now had control over the software and if one model was too crappy well just rebrand it and sell it as something else. The people will get fed up with the original junk they bought and buy a new unit (LOL with the same problems). IKS is winding down fast so again they are looking for a cheap easy fix.

Now where we are at today.

You can buy an android box, subscribe to a service and watch TV. Most people will go with the cheapest route again and are only asking for trouble. Not enough RAM and low end processors. Sound familiar? Same problems that plagued most of the boxes designed for FTA / IKS. Then they will try and upgrade the box and totally mess it up because a box that will run XBMC may not be able to handle Kodi.

Others will buy a pre-configured box that can not be updated without rooting the unit. That is a pain to begin with and there is only 2 reasons for that. Either the manufacturer already has the unit maxxed out to begin with or they intend to updating the software on the next model up.

So live and learn really. If you want to take shortcuts or save money be prepared for frustration. How many people have seen any channel redundancy in their channel listings? If I want to watch BBC One not a problem for me. I can click a link on favorites and see 4 of them pop up. Two HD & two SD options. If one doesn't work I try another and watch TV. You are not going to get that with any service. It is either there or it isn't. I guess there is always the option of subscribing to a second service and hoping they are using a different link to the channel but with all the leeching going on, rebranding of the same service, etc the odds are not in your favor there either.

CAVEAT EMPTOR !

It's nice to know that someone here understands what I'm saying :thumbsup:

YoHo
07-20-2015, 08:10 PM
I also agree with your post too. Everyone should stay on IKS until it's completely gone. Most users don't understand the new usage caps that's imposed by their cable company since bandwidth speeds...

c8rbk1ng
07-20-2015, 08:39 PM
That's not what I'm saying. If I were you I get a new Internet Provider if that's the plan you are on.