Powering 1000.2 with sw44 inserter

[badbreath]

Is it possible / advisable to do this? Is there any difference to using a dp44? Using dream link t5. I just want to use the inserter to power the lnb no switch.

[Terryl]

It is best to use a DPP power inserter with the DP 1000 LNB, the old SW44 power supply may work, but the DPP power supply is a better choice, as has a variable DC voltage output.

When connected to a DPP44 switch or directly to a DPP LNB it will sense the required DC current to operate the switch or LNB attached and compensate for the DC voltage loss of the coax used, this is another reason why they can go out to 200+ feet on a DPP install without too much signal loss and DC voltage drop at the switch or LNB.

When using DP or DPP LNB's it's best to use DP or DPP rated hardware.

The DP44 power inserter can deliver 20.5 to 28 volts DC at 1.5 amps.

The SW44 power inserter can deliver 24 volts DC at 1 amp.

[badbreath]

would knowing i have an under 10 foot run from the outlet to the dish change anything you said?

[Terryl]

Nope, the DPP inserter will do it's thing, 10 feet or 200 feet it will do the job.

A 10 foot run what is the dish right outside the wall??

And remember, it's best to run the power on it's own coax out to the LNB.

[badbreath]

its pretty much directly on the other side of wall the outlet is on. Ill pick up a DPP 44 inserter. Sw44 was just easier to source and cheaper. Thank you for your expertise.

[Terryl]

And remember, the power inserter should be on it's own coax out to the #1 receiver port on the LNB, this because some receivers do not work too well with the power inserter module in-line with them.

[badbreath]

Since I have you here may I ask you for some switch help. I have a 82 91 dish with an sw21 combining the lnbs. If I set up the 1000.2 into one side of a 22khz switch and the sw21 into the other side would that work? Assuming the receiver settings are correct.

[Terryl]

Some have had good luck with that type of setup, some haven't.

You may need to use a DP twin LNB (no external switch) on the 91/82 side as the SW21 is a 22 KHz switch, (22 KHz on/off) using two 22 KHz switches on one leg will/may get the receiver quite confused, you could use a standard Diseqc 1x4 switch on the 82/91 side.

Just be sure that the two dishes and all switches are on the same ground, and to avoid problems that all LNB's are of the DP type as the Dish 1000 LNB does not work too well with some of the older legacy type or other manufactures LNB's.

[badbreath]

This "free" dish I scored is getting quite expensive.

[badbreath]

Got the inserted today. Now I can't get any single whatsoever just solid red on all three birds. Before the inserted when I was playing around I could get some signal and it would fluctuate In And out. Now nothing solid red 97%. Ill check he mast see if its still plumb after me taking the dish on and off twice. Anything else I should be looking for?

[jeldf]

taking the dish off twice might be your problem. Try a dish pointer app for your phone. I'd loan you my sat finder but I don't know you.

[badbreath]

Replummed the mast. Checked all connections all tight and double checked elevation and skew with dish pointer. Still.Can't catch any signal. Solid 97% red. I guess ill start swapping out cables unless someone has something for me to try.

[Terryl]

OK, start with sat 119W, use TP12457 to find it as it is a CONUS transponder and has one open channel on it. (Dish 101)

119W is the center satellite of the three, it is the main one you should be looking for, the default transponders are 12224, on 119W this is a spotbeam and may not be active in your area, so be sure to use the one I mentioned.

Once you find that satellite and have things all tweaked in for the best "S" and "Q" you can get on that satellite, you lock everything down tight, then you may have to adjust the skew a bit to get 110W and 129W in your sights.

[badbreath]

After replacing one older looking cable I was able to grab some 119 signal... but its only on diseqc 2. Isn't that the 110 lnb? I tried moving the dish back east and it didn't grab anything on diseqc 1 moved almost 1/2 the horizon.

[Terryl]

Do you have the DC power inserter in-line with the receiver????

Some receivers do not like the Dish DP power inserter connected in-line with them, this is why it should be on it's own coax out to the #1 port on the LNB, the #1 port is the one on the left looking at the LNB with the eyes toward you, then the receiver(s) can be run on the next two ports to the right of that one.

And yes sat 119W is in the Diseqc switch #1 position, 110 is #2 and 129 is #3.

Did you use the TP for 119W I mentioned in my post above?

[badbreath]

I have the inserter in port #1 and the receiver in #2. I'm just using the t5 dish settings screen. I tin foil covered the lnb to the far left (looking out from behind the dish) and it didn't do anything tin foil covered the far right and it killed the signal.

[badbreath]

finally got plus 95% on 119 and 110 on there proper lnbs. 129 coming in at a whopping 55%

[Terryl]

So you got it working right?


Use TP 12516 on 129W, it's a CONUS TP and in SD.

[badbreath]

i stopped fiddling with it for today. Dish pointer elevation was way off for my address for some reason. probaly because im mounting the dish a good 45 feet in the air. Ill try to tune in 129 for better s and q tomorow but yes its working. 110 and 119 scanned in a bunch of channels. 129 gave under 40.

[Terryl]

45 feet is nothing as far as the elevation, several thousand maybe.

Did you zoom into where the dish is mounted and move the marker to it?

[badbreath]

It was off by 8 degrees. Maybe I'm just reading the dish wrong. I didn't catch any 119 signal on the proper lnb until I changed it, then was able to find it quite easily. Hopefully 129 comes in with just a skew change because I tightened those nuts down HARD when I finally found it.

[Terryl]

Great...Now if the skew on that dish has not changed then 110 and 129 should fall into place.

[badbreath]

They are all at 95+ now. but the switch problem came into effect. Dish settings gives me full signal, but going to a channel gives me bad or no signal. I found a cheap dpp twin lnb and am going to throw that on the 82 91 dish with an sw21 separating the dishes hope it works.