Trouble getting both 110 & 119

[skidkid]

I am trying to get 110 & 119 on a jynxbox v3. I am using the round dish 500 i believe and a DISEqC switch from my old viewsat. My dish does not skew so im thinking that is the issue. or maybe not the right DISEqC switch? Is there a way to get both sats without a skew dish? I can only move the dish up and down and side to side, i cant rotate it. I am in the Toronto area. Do I Need a new dish to get both? I could have sworn this is the same dish i used before to get them but it was so long ago i cant remember.

Here are some pics

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Thanks
Skidkid

[whoknows]

That dish will work. You just have to place l n b correctly. Holders or adapters are available. Here is one example...


http://www.canadasatellite.ca/v/vspfiles/photos/Dual-LNB-Holder-DGA6701-2.jpg

[skidkid]

Thats right. I had one of those. Thanks bud.

[steven charles]

Thats right. I had one of those. Thanks bud.friend try posting your settings for each sat your pointing too,including ports and to find the signal and quality easyier try taking your receiver and a small portable tv where the dish is and connect everything,and just move the dish little by little until you get the signal and quality,its easy this way....

[abouttosnap]

I am trying to get 110 & 119 on a jynxbox v3. I am using the round dish 500 i believe and a DISEqC switch from my old viewsat. My dish does not skew so im thinking that is the issue. or maybe not the right DISEqC switch? Is there a way to get both sats without a skew dish? I can only move the dish up and down and side to side, i cant rotate it. I am in the Toronto area. Do I Need a new dish to get both? I could have sworn this is the same dish i used before to get them but it was so long ago i cant remember.

Here are some pics

241732417424175.

Thanks
Skidkid

Going by the pictures you have that one is about the same as a dtv dish which is about 18" around...dish500 pan would be about 20" x 22" if memory serves me right and has a skew plate. Also the lnb arm on the dish you have would be longer than a dish500 lnb arm which when using that y-yoke would make the distance between the dish and the lnb to far apart and you would never be able to get a signal. Dish500 lnb arm is roughly 4" shorter to work with the y-yoke and have the correct distance between the linb and the pan.

As whoknows said that holder would work but it works with standard lnbs that fit a square tube like the ones below and the dishpro lnbs you have wouldn't work with that holder because of the wide casing around the feed horn. So in order to use that type of holder you would have to use different type lnbs or find a dish500 pan and skew plate to work with the lnbs and y-yoke you already have now. Also included a picture of the back side of a dish500.

Another option if you could get a hold of a couple of standard dtv lnbs is to make a poormans dish like the third picture below...use the dish you have and lock on to the 110 and then strap another lnb to the side to nail the 119. The picture below is of an old setup I used about 8 years ago. Once you lock the 110 use some strong rubber bands to hold the other lnb in place...then slowly slide it up until you get a good strong signal on the 119. Once you have the lnb for the 119 in position strap the two together with some tie straps and then just cut the rubber bands off...the trick I found with mounting the lnbs this way is using a second tie strap around the feed horns to draw them together...get a lot stronger signal on the 119 with them pulled together...hope this helps.

[Terryl]

I would just go get an old dish 500, you may find some just lying around curb side, or at garage sales.

It also looks like you have two mismatched LNB's, one looks much older then the other.

[skidkid]

So i went out and got a larger dish 21" X 22" Bell dish that skews. I still cant find 119.
Here are my setting and pics of my hardware. When i go to sat 110 and go to port 1. i get 110. When i go to 119 and switch to port 1 i get signal but at the top where it normally says dish setting, it says echostar 110. (dunno why it didnt say it when i took pic) I do have 2 extra LNBs (shown in pics)
The LNB that is getting the 110 signal is one on the right (standing behind dish)



years ago when i set up my dish it was very easy to find them so i think is settings or hardware. I dont really know what im doing.

[skidkid]

And the info pics2420124202

[dishuser]

try tp 12297 for 119

[whoknows]

Don't use disq switch when aligning dish. Go straight to 119. Check elevation and set skew. Change antenna settings to reflect this setup. Move dish from south to southwest in small increments, waiting for signal to catch up using tp that was suggested as above post.

[skidkid]

oh sorry, i forgot to add that the skew is at 90.
I followed the steps in the How To Align a Dish 500 sticky but cant get past step 3

[skidkid]

Don't use disq switch when aligning dish. Go straight to 119. Check elevation and set skew. Change antenna settings to reflect this setup. Move dish from south to southwest in small increments, waiting for signal to catch up using tp that was suggested as above post.

Same results.

I can find 110 but not 119.

on my app it says 119 is 25.6, 5 elevation down from 110 at 30.6. I got 83% on 110 at 30.6 elevation, but cant find anything at 25.6.
i have spent hours pointing it at the sky.

-Only 1 lnb installed in 119 slot
-1 cable from lnb to sat. no switch.
-disabled switch setting from port 1 to disabled.
-skew @ 90
-get 110 no problems with 119 lnb in 119 slot

I live in the same town i did before so i know it possible to get but im starting to think there is a branch something in the way in the distance and i just cant get it.

[dishuser]

Same results.

I can find 110 but not 119.unless you're in the spotbeam of indiana/illinois area you never will using tp 12224

[abouttosnap]

I would go to dishpointer and type in your location then select Multi-LNB Setup and select Dish500+ from the drop down menu...that will give you the correct elevation and skew...once you have that set it should be just a matter of moving the dish slowly little by little left or right to get a strong signal on the 110. Once you have a good strong signal on the 110 the 119 should be there. In the guide it says to set the skew at 90 degrees but that is just a start point. Link to dishpointer is below. Hope this helps:


http://www.dishpointer.com

[whoknows]

You don't have 2 different elevations unless you are using 2 different dishes with 1 lnb. Set elevation at 28 and once you find 119 then you can fine tune. Don't use tp 12224. Right arrow in antenna settings to a higher tp and keep moving dish in small increments to the right till you hit 119.

[skidkid]

unless you're in the spotbeam of indiana/illinois area you never will using tp 12224
That did it. Thank you so much man.

[dishuser]

That did it. Thank you so much man.

good to hear you got it

[skidkid]

LOL is there a special tp for 110? cant seem to find 110 when i skew. I get 119 at 85% but now cant get 110 when i turn clockwise (from behind dish) :Idontgetit: i wanna cry lol

[dishuser]

LOL is there a special tp for 110? cant seem to find 110 when i skew :Idontgetit:tp 12224 which is default
you might be getting 119 off wrong lnb hence why you can't get 110

[skidkid]

tp 12224 which is default
you might be getting 119 off wrong lnb hence why you can't get 110

I used only the 119 plugged in, in the 119 slot, then i got 85% (on 119) locked it down, plugged in 110 and turned clockwise (from behind) but couldn't find it.

I did however find a spot where the signal bounces between 14% and 42% (like it did when i found 119 with wrong tp) and it only does it at that one spot. if that helps at all.

[dishuser]

I used only the 119 plugged in, in the 119 slot, then i got 85% (on 119) locked it down, plugged in 110 and turned clockwise (from behind) but couldn't find it.

I did however find a spot where the signal bounces between 14% and 42% (like it did when i found 119 with wrong tp) and it only does it at that one spot. if that helps at all.try counterclockwise ;)

[skidkid]

try counterclockwise ;)

Nope. I did however get 110 on the 119 lnb when i turned it clockwise so far that it was almost sideways. no 119 tho. I dunno what I'm doing wrong. im about to just give up and return the stuff lol.

[dishuser]

Nope. I did however get 110 on the 119 lnb when i turned it clockwise so far that it was almost sideways. no 119 tho. I dunno what I'm doing wrong. im about to just give up and return the stuff lol.
then elevation might be off

[skidkid]

then elevation might be off
I get 119 at 85% at this elevation with the 119 lnb so I dont thinks its off. Maybe 3 of my 4 lnbs are dead? Im going to try switching the working lnb from the 119 slot to the 110 slot tomorrow. If that doesnt work im just returning it. Ive been screwing with this thing for days and keep spending money and have gotten nowhere.

Thanks anyway guys. Too good to be true lol.

[steven charles]

LOL is there a special tp for 110? cant seem to find 110 when i skew. I get 119 at 85% but now cant get 110 when i turn clockwise (from behind dish) :Idontgetit: i wanna cry lolfriend you can try tp 12282 for sat 110 and port 2.....

[abouttosnap]

As a general rule 110 would be port 2 and the 119 would be port 1 on the switch...could be the other way with your setup but the dishpro's dual lnb's that have a built in switch are set that way so just easier to keep up with that way. Noticed in one of your pictures you had port 2 selected for both the 110 and 119 so that maybe causing you a problem.

Once you have the elevation and skew per dishpointer set on the dish go after the 110 first...you may already know but just in case the y yoke is marked which lnb would be for the 110. So in the stb you would select the 110, tp 12224 should work to get a signal and set your switch to port 2. Once you have located a good strong signal on the 110 go back into the stb and select the 119, tp 12297 and set the switch to port 1 and if the skew is set correct the 119 should be there.

For example the elevation for my location would be 34.8 so I would set my elevation to almost 35 and snug the nuts down...when setting the elevation make sure to use the metal tab inside the scale and not the nut it's self (example below). The skew for my location would be 127.7 so I would rotate the dish clockwise until the skew mark is just about 128 and snug down the nuts. Once I had all that set go into the stb select the 110, tp 12224 and set the switch to port 2...go back out to the dish and move it right or left slowly little by little until I nail a signal. Depending on how level and plumb the mast pole is you may still have to tweak the elevation to get the best signal possible. Once you have the 110 located go back in to the stb select 119, tp12297 and set it to port 1...you have already set the correct skew earlier so you should be getting a signal off the 119 now as well. Key to setting up a dish500 is to locate the 110 first...once you have nailed that one and you already have the skew set correctly the 119 has to be there or real close to it. But like with the elevation you may still have to tweak the skew a little to get a good signal on the 119 as well.

I always make sure the mast pole is as level and plumb as possible using either a small line level or round level...front to back and left to right...makes getting a strong signal a lot easier. Hope this helps you out...don't give up you will get it...just takes a little time and patients.

[skidkid]

I found the issue. I now get 119 on the right lnb and 110 on the right lnb and my dish is aimed and pointed correctly. the issue i have is, i set 119 to the correct tp and 110 to the correct tp but when i switch back and forth from the seetings for 110 and 119 or exit the setup they just revert back to a diff tp that is wrong and drop signal.

I dont see a save settings option or anything



EDIT: I think it was only the free preview channel that was doing that. i think im good now. Thank you all for taking the time to walk me through this again. You guys rock.