Sat Pointing and Gen HookUp info needed.

[stevenhayes]

Using Birdog on dish 3LNB HD I think it is 1000.2 sat. IRD is LimeSat HD Air on eithernet cable & rocket. RG6 cables. No switch needed. DPP44 power inserter. Pole cement in ground and plumb. Have dpp44 switch but not using it due to only 1 IRD used. Nothing blocking view.


I get a handful of channels but no Dish 101, golf, tennis channels (i get some PPV, adult and 300's (encore etc). On birdog, Can not get sat higher than

74 % on 119
72% on 110
60% on 129

On IRD i get 95% level and quality. Mostly 95% till i start scan then steady bouncing from 40% to 95%

I have this setting

110 ( i get about 150 channels on a scan)
LNB Power: ON
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 11.250
LNB 22KHz: Off
Diseqc sw 1.0: 2
Diseqc sw 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: Off

118.8 Anik f3 (get about 60 channels on a scan)
LNB Power: ON
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 10.750
LNB 22KHz: Off
Diseqc sw 1.0: 3
Diseqc sw 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: Of


119 (get about 200 channels on a scan, Swith LNB Freq to 11.250 I get 400 channels scan)
LNB Power: ON
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 10.750
LNB 22KHz: Off
Diseqc sw 1.0: 1
Diseqc sw 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: Off

129 Ciel 2 (get 0 on channel scan)
LNB Power: ON
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 11.250
LNB 22KHz: Off
Diseqc sw 1.0: 4
Diseqc sw 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: Off

If i change LNB Frequency on 119 from 10.750 to 11.250 Seems to pick up double the channels. I get around 400 channels scanned.

I have tried covering the 2 end LNB's with foil and get 0 signal, even on the birdog, trying to fine tune 119.
I have to put power inserter on the same port (port2) as an FTA receiver (i get channels). With power inserter on port 1, I get nothing at IRD, channel scan will not lock any sats in. I even tried readjusting skew while everything is locked and only lose signal. Same with Elevation. 76 is the highest i seen on the birdog.

1. Is it normal to have 95% level and quality but red (not locked in) then when scan starts, about half way, it locks in (quality and level turn green) for a few seconds picking up channels then back to red. This always happen on every sat. They all start off red then turn green and lock in for a few seconds throughout the scan.

2. Some channels I'm getting this message "Bad or No signal" then leave it there 30 seconds, picture will come in. Is this because i am out of alignment?

3. Some channels show 45% signal on channel then after 4 secounds it jumps to 98%. And some go from 98% to 43%. Is this due to alignment issues?

[Terryl]

OK, to setup a D1000 LNB, you first must find the center satellite, this would be 119W, to find 119W use TP 12457R, this is a CONUS beam and should have the Dish 101 channel on it.

Once you get the signal on 119W maxed out, you lock all adjustments down, then you very very very slowly adjust the skew of the dish, (rotating it the direction indicated on Dishpointer.com) once this is done you can check 129 (use TP 12516) and 118,use TP 11806R, has the "You have a Dish at 118W channel on it. (channel 9583)

I don't think your satellite meter has enough DC current to run the 4 LNB setup, this is what the DPP switches power supply is needed, it should be run up to the #1 receiver port on the LNB and on it's own coax, as some FTA receivers dont play well with it in-line with them.

Also you described that your trying to receive 4 satellites off the D1000 LNB, 110, 119, 129 and 118, if you do not have the special LNB for the 118/119 combo you will not be able to get anything on 118.

Can you post a photo of your LNB?

And if you have the 3 headed LNB from dish then your Diseqc switching is setup wrong.

110 is on Diseqc port #2, 119 is on Diseqc port #1 129 is on Diseqc port #3 and 118 would be on Diseqc port #4. (for 118 you need the special LNB)

[stevenhayes]

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your satellite meter does not have enough DC current, this is what the DPP switches power supply is needed, it should be run up to the #1 receiver port on the LNB and on it's own coax, as some FTA receivers dont play well with it in-line with them. 23 volts AC at LNB port 2. If i install power inserter in port 1, I get 0 channels, How ever if i use power inserter inline with IRD on port 2, i get a lot of channels scanned and viewable. I removed all other coaxial cables.


"first must find the center satellite, this would be 119W" I must be on the right bird or i would not get the 119 channels in. I scan 400 and i can actually watch about 40 or so. I think this maybe because it scans at a week signal (not locked it but for a few secs at a time). I am hoping a stronger signal will get more channels viewable.

The only reason i am scanning 118 is because some 118 channels are coming in, I would like to get the Philippine channels on 9968 9970 etc but they are not coming in. When i go to the channel it reads sat 110 (thought it should be 118 sat)

When i scan 119W use TP 12457 the level and quality stay @ 95% red (never turn green and lock in). If i scan 119 @ LNB Freq to 11.250 I get 400 channels at scan. Scan starts with red level & quality but then turns green for a few secs picking up channels, it does not start scan green and does not stay locked in (green) for long, it cycles red to green every few secs. Is this normal? This happens on all sats I scan.

" Once you get the signal on 119W maxed out, you lock all adjustments down, then you very very very slowly adjust the skew of the dish, (rotating it the direction indicated on Dishpointer.com"

That is one of the problems i am having, I am only getting 75% at max on 119. Skew is suppose to be at 123 (my location) I move it both ways and signal only drops either way. Stays same at 123 to 125. Past or before it drops from 75% to 68%



Since i should not scan 118 I just put 129 on Diseqc #3.

[Terryl]

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your satellite meter does not have enough DC current, this is what the DPP switches power supply is needed, it should be run up to the #1 receiver port on the LNB and on it's own coax, as some FTA receivers dont play well with it in-line with them. 23 volts AC at LNB port 2******. If i install power inserter in port 1, I get 0 channels, How ever if i use power inserter inline with IRD on port 2, i get a lot of channels scanned and viewable. I removed all other coaxial cables.


"first must find the center satellite, this would be 119W" I must be on the right bird or i would not get the 119 channels in. I scan 400 and i can actually watch about 40 or so. I think this maybe because it scans at a week signal (not locked it but for a few secs at a time). I am hoping a stronger signal will get more channels viewable.

The only reason i am scanning 118 is because some 118 channels are coming in, I would like to get the Philippine channels on 9968 9970 etc but they are not coming in. When i go to the channel it reads sat 110 (thought it should be 118 sat)

When i scan 119W use TP 12457 the level and quality stay @ 95% red (never turn green and lock in). If i scan 119 @ LNB Freq to 11.250 I get 400 channels at scan. Scan starts with red level & quality but then turns green for a few secs picking up channels, it does not start scan green and does not stay locked in (green) for long, it cycles red to green every few secs. Is this normal? This happens on all sats I scan.

" Once you get the signal on 119W maxed out, you lock all adjustments down, then you very very very slowly adjust the skew of the dish, (rotating it the direction indicated on Dishpointer.com"

That is one of the problems i am having, I am only getting 75% at max on 119. Skew is suppose to be at 123 (my location) I move it both ways and signal only drops either way. Stays same at 123 to 125. Past or before it drops from 75% to 68%



Since i should not scan 118 I just put 129 on Diseqc #3.

23169This is wrong, 119 is the center LNB, 129 and 110 are on ether side.

Looking from the back of the dish at the LNB, the 110 LNB is on the right side, 129 is on the left side, this is because the signals criss cross when they bounce off the dish.
The coax outputs carry all 3 satellites at the same time, it is the Diseqc switching that goes between them, and both "L" and "R" transponders come down one coax at the same time. (this is why the coax needs to be rated to 2.5 GHz or higher)


******You should not be getting any AC voltage from the DPP power supply, it should all be DC voltage, if you are then the DC power supply is bad.
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If you dont get anything when the DPP power supply (if it is good) is hooked to the #1 LNB output (left hand port holding the LNB with the eyes pointing at you) then the LNB has a problem, the other ports may work but the #1 port is the only one that should supply power to the rest of the LNB, it is the only port designed to do so, it has the proper filtering and power regulation for the rest of the LNB's, even the second one needed for 118. (attaches to the LNB input port)

Now are we talking about the "S" or the "Q" on these satellites?

75% "S" is fine for this LNB, 75% "Q" would also work as this is a digital signal, you don't need 100% on this type of signal.

[Terryl]

One other thing, if your using a Dish Network receiver like the 301 (or equivalent) then you do not need the DPP power supply, the Dish receiver will power the LNB by it's self, just do a switch check on the Dish receiver and it will detect the D1000 LNB and setup the correct DC power needed to run that LNB.

[stevenhayes]

I am using a LimeSat HD Air. Tomorrow i can hook up a DishNet 301 IRD for the power inserter to check and see if the DDP44 inserter is bad.

rescanned
119 TP 12457 disecq 1 I get 418 channels
110 TP 12224 disecq 2 I get 384 channels
129 TP 12516 disecq 3 I get 76 channels
118 TP 11806 disecq 4 I get 133 channels

Since i do not have a 118 lnb, how can i scan 133 channels on 118. Some of the channels are viewable, maybe 6 out of the 15 i checked.

Lot of the 110 HD channels are not coming in (6169, 9442 tennis, golf,) but tennis and gold channel on 400 and 401 working.

Are the philippine channels on sat 110 or 118? I get channels 9968, 9969, 9975, 9976. They show sat 110 with 80% but i thought they are on 118. None of them come in. Channel 9970 & 9972 do not show up in channel list (missing). No local channels come in (New Orleans). Seems like every channel with 4 digits do not come in.

I also have a PLUS 4 LNBdish plus, is this a better dish? Would i be better off hooking up this one

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[steven charles]

I am using a LimeSat HD Air. Tomorrow i can hook up a DishNet 301 IRD for the power inserter to check and see if the DDP44 inserter is bad.

rescanned
119 TP 12457 disecq 1 I get 418 channels
110 TP 12224 disecq 2 I get 384 channels
129 TP 12516 disecq 3 I get 76 channels
118 TP 11806 disecq 4 I get 133 channels

Since i do not have a 118 lnb, how can i scan 133 channels on 118. Some of the channels are viewable, maybe 6 out of the 15 i checked.

Lot of the 110 HD channels are not coming in (6169, 9442 tennis, golf,) but tennis and gold channel on 400 and 401 working.

Are the philippine channels on sat 110 or 118? I get channels 9968, 9969, 9975, 9976. They show sat 110 with 80% but i thought they are on 118. None of them come in. Channel 9970 & 9972 do not show up in channel list (missing). No local channels come in (New Orleans). Seems like every channel with 4 digits do not come in.

I also have a PLUS 4 LNBdish plus, is this a better dish? Would i be better off hooking up this one

23170yes friend this dish has the lnbs that you need for sat 110-119-118-129,this one should work great....