Another Mod Reseller Bust?

[hondoharry]

First this from official NFPS reseller vgiddy:

Unable to communicate with members.

I have been very sick and had to visit my Doctor today and have been advised total rest. As such I will not be available to communicate will any members on the forum for any kind of help which will include Paypal Donations. Please understand my position and be patient till I am able to be back on the Forum.

Thank you.



Then this from main mod where he sold:

Donations..

There will be NO DONATIONS sold on the site.. NO Resellers NO MODs no ONE...
The ONLY way that anyone will be able to purchase Donations will be via the IKSPRIVATESERVER.COM site...

For those FEW who have NOT received their donations (Via PAypal) from Vgiddy . You MUST log on to your PAYPAL account and CANCEL those transactions...


My red flag went berserk on this one, like there's more to this story. Smacks of another PayPal bust similar to Wufman's. Let's hope no letters come out of this. Unlike Wuf, I believe he is Canadian and lives there.

Heck we don't even have a way now to donate to the poor guy for his medical bills.

[BanHammer]

what a coincidence, both he and wufman had issues relating to the medical field

[Anubis]

Seems to be the "in" thing.

[Nostradamus]

I think he has become anal retentive.... in other words he had a court order shoved up his butt :)

and I really don't know if he is Canadian or just landed immigrant status but it wouldn't be the first time JJ drove across the "bridge" after a canuck

[hutch]

it has already been reported that he won't be back...

[jeldf]

listed as Admin-Retired

[Open Sky]

Heck we don't even have a way now to donate to the poor guy for his medical bills.


Canadians don't get medical bills. :D

[skyview]

all this happened around same time they had new ip for all servers also
maybe nothing but seems strange

and seems vgiddy is going down the same road as the others,health,retired,sued,informant,ect...

[Styx_N_Stones]

Smells bad...

[clarkie]

Wonder if Dick was collecting Paypal info or donation names and PP info before the leak was discovered and then the letters started as that was all they needed

[spike52]

Another sick MOD geeez, Mr Sonicview part deux what a joke really insult your smarts they do.

[jeldf]

Yo Dick......you need to come up with something new. Health issues, accidents, retired. Carnival cruise mishap would work lol.

[joem1947]

Must be something about selling them codes that causes health problems, kind of like working around asbestos.

[Jdread]

Sends a chill up my spine whenever I read these stories, Kind of hoping and wishing that this is not true. Every time this happens it is another success story for Dick and I really do feel it for these guys. Are we getting closer to the end of IKS?

[hutch]

Here's what the Zeta brand new admin(replacement) The Fix had to say c/p

IKSPRIVATESERVER.COM
IS the ONLY Official Site.. It redirects to Papiao.tv... It will soon be ONLY Papiao.tv...

Sorry for all the confusion.. We will try to clear things up soon...

Vgiddy is NOT an active member of this site.. He has taken permanent leave.. The NIC is still on the site out of respect for him...


We will issue an UPDATE about ALL of the new staff today..

[horhota]

Wow - what a disastrous past few months for NFPS. Now the only way to get a donation is the web site which can only take Visa and has to go through some payment gateways that just aren't very easy to use. With all the IP address/server name changes, the fiasco over donation code numbers, ECMs taking longer and longer to fix it seems like they are in a real mess.

[hutch]

& yet more from the new admin at Zeta c/p

Vgiddy was a stand up guy.. He felt pressure which was too great to overcome and HAD to retire..
He made a decision to hang it up...

All that WE KNOW is that he has quit.....

Further speculation is FUTILE, disrespectful and FULL of error...

We will get better clarification with time..

[hondoharry]

What I find so hard to believe is all those people falling for the illness story and well wishing him back to health. I mean, REALLY!

[dishuser]

What I find so hard to believe is all those people falling for the illness story and well wishing him back to health. I mean, REALLY!

don't see that happening
you must mean at another site so who cares

[hondoharry]

don't see that happening
you must mean at another site so who cares

Maybe you need to get out and about a little more.

[dishuser]

Maybe you need to get out and about a little more.

there's no need

[jeldf]

Maybe you need to get out and about a little more.

Has nothing to do with this site as DU said......and I think we are all out and about thank you

[ftaalltheway]

Smells bad...

in a strange way it does,,,

heres what i can chime in for,,, i know hes canuck cuz i sold
him fta crap moons ago,,,i can say hes always been stand-up
so then
since he posted at zeta weeks/month back on the wuff situation
saying PP was NOT the cause to his situation, in HIS opinion?
then one has to wonder what caused HIS (VG) current stressors?,,,

for sure if they crawl up your whazzo to search in all crooks and crannies
this will cause pain,,,what makes me wonder though, since he is canuck
was PP behind the stressors?? cuz he was using PP
along with (email $$$ transfers in canada only)

he was a stand up guy ,,,even if he caves to the powers
to save his behind,,,im sure he wont want that to include giving up a list
cuz that will change some opinions,,,but what would YOU do??

to me,,,only curious thing about his txns was this,,,he was accepting payments
then he would ask for your site nic in one email as he was filling the order
and then next email he would ask for your actuall name ,,,
what is strange about THAT??
he never even said (use a fictitious name if you want) so that tells me
other noobs would have prob given him their REAL name without thinking

others like many of us would just send him a fictitious name and the order
would still be filled,,,scratched my head cuz i thought,,what the hell diff would it
make about a name,,,couldnt HE just fill wahtever name HE wanted for HIS records and
attach it to his records for future reference?? since he really wouldnt know
if you gave him your REAL name anyways?? no way of checking if true
or not,,,so

makes one wonder if this will eventually lead to same situation as Wuff

will wait and see,,,,in this game anything is possible BUT only hope this
doesnt get silly and more court letters appear BUT esp on northern soil

[southbeach]

It does smell really bad, all his post gone on FTA Zeta, emails deleted and someone created the same user ID on March 22, and said he was very sick. If you ask questions over there everyone is silent on it.

Now no one can sell D# on the site, just from the iskps site, it does make you wonder, if he was sick why all the fuss, it does smell bad

[Mtheguy]

When asked awhile back, Vgiddy said that he never stores NIC's etc. on anything that could be accessed electonically. But I see your point, as my friend was never asked for his site NIC the 1st time he bought his codes. But was asked this time. He gave VG a bogus NIC withought an issue...What strikes me as odd was the dumping of GMAN from ZETA with not as much as a peep or reason by anyone...Unless he just changed his NIC..

[whositwhatnow]

WE'll most likely find out some other things about what is going on here, seeing as he cdn, wondering how this will spill into the north IF he was contacted by DN. This will be interesting..

[lobsterpot]

I wonder if some of us canadians will be getting the famous letters now.

[southbeach]

Anything is possible, i certainly don't buy the "he is very sick and had to retire" bit. It seems there is an effort to erase him from Zeta.

[ftaalltheway]

I wonder if some of us canadians will be getting the famous letters now.

not likely (to endusers) legaly but southerners migght,,,
IF THAT happens ? then
one would have to strongly suspect PP as the culprit
and the only way canuks
would is IF dn/nag extended far beyond their reaches
and ONLY to use the usual scare tactics,,,thats NOT
to say THEY wouldnt have any issues stopping a reseller
from gaining/profiting from the tnxs and take any legal
action necessary with help of CDN feds ,,,

still, he prob wont be
prosecuted on CDN soil for selling dons BUT one would think twice travelling
abroad IF suit was ever forceable on U.S soil,,,

something tells me PP put the heat on his txns (by
help of dn) and he prob decided to
pull the plug on his own to be safer,,,i dont think
he was a server op,,, so time will tell and SOON
whats what,,,hope it is nothing more and this fizzles
but def staying away from zeta is good idea unless one
reads ONLY like many of us do??,,,lol

[The Fix]

it is a bust for sure,

i have dealt with VGiddy many times with sales of FTA equipment, he is definitely in Canada, i know his full real name and home address, i will not post out of respect, i will just say he lives in the Niagara area of Canada near the border,

i would not be suprised if the "northern provider" has now jumped on the bandwagon and will do the same with this situation as what was done with wuff customers in the states, afterall, nagra serves them both,

if you are in canada and purchased from VGiddy you should be very worried right now, the flood of canadian letters will arrive soon

in closing i will just say, anybody who is foolish/stupid enough to make an illegal transaction using their own/real paypal account is a complete idiot and deserves what they get,

good luck in court, you will need it

[hondoharry]

Not so sure about Canadian letters. They could have done so with Wuf info and didn't - - yet.

[The Fix]

no they couldnt, the transactions occurred on US soil....VGiddy transactions occurred on Canadian soil <br />
<br />
if one commits a murder in germany, they can only be charged and go to court for it in...

[southbeach]

I am curious this happened with Wuf and now VG why do these sites allow for these AS to openly sell, everywhere on Zeta it was see VG, lolol that wasn't so good was it in hindsight

[The Fix]

I am curious this happened with Wuf and now VG why do these sites allow for these AS to openly sell, everywhere on Zeta it was see VG, lolol that wasn't so good was it in hindsight

because the sites dont care about the end users, they care about making money, the more codes they sell, the more money is made

[ftaalltheway]

it is a bust for sure,

i have dealt with VGiddy many times with sales of FTA equipment, he is definitely in Canada, i know his full real name and home address, i will not post out of respect, i will just say he lives in the Niagara area of Canada near the border,

i would not be suprised if the "northern provider" has now jumped on the bandwagon and will do the same with this situation as what was done with wuff customers in the states, afterall, nagra serves them both,

if you are in canada and purchased from VGiddy you should be very worried right now, the flood of canadian letters will arrive soon

in closing i will just say, anybody who is foolish/stupid enough to make an illegal transaction using their own/real paypal account is a complete idiot and deserves what they get,

good luck in court, you will need it

wow ,,,are you not the new admin at zeta?
the fix?? hmmmm curious THAT

but even more curious, is you posting you are NOT
going to give out VGs personal info OUT OF RESPECT??
ermm NOT,,, more like you know full well THAT would be a NONO

I know his info too but UNLIKE you i didnt go there
and YAH out of RESPECT

so, dingaling go spread your crap on other boards
until you see an enduser get served by dn's cronies
as it relates to VGs situation
you know SQUAT

[southbeach]

Perhaps but i think he raises good points, it is a bust , which they won't disclose on Zet, he won't say anything about it either and that it was done on CDN soil, can anyone confirm the bust

[surfinisfun]

Considering nfps don't dabble in the north provider, why would bev be involved? Nagra maybe not bev. <br />
<br />
And by the way, right or wrong you sure are talking a lot here for a new member, just someone...

[The Fix]

Considering nfps don't dabble in the north provider, why would bev be involved? Nagra maybe not bev.

And by the way, right or wrong you sure are talking a lot here for a new member, just someone again with an agenda would be my guess.

Don't take my post as any kind of a defense for VG or nfps cause i don't really care what happens to the group either way.

NFPS DID "dabble" with the northern provider at one point in time, so you are wrong there, but that actually is irrelevant to the court cases, its NAGRA who are heading the court cases, not the providers, and nagra serves both providers

[JCO]

UMMM seems to me The Fix is a nic used on another site and I seriously doubt your the one that the Nic is associated with.. CAre to tell me why you are playing this game before I ban you..

[The Fix]

UMMM seems to me The Fix is a nic used on another site and I seriously doubt your the one that the Nic is associated with.. CAre to tell me why you are playing this game before I ban you..

ban me if you want asswipe, i have done nothing wrong except inform people of THE TRUTH!

[JCO]

ban me if you want asswipe, i have done nothing wrong except inform people of THE TRUTH!

Impersonating an admin from another site is not considered doing nothing in my books..
Looks like I took you up on the offer since you disrespectfully did not heed the warning..
Now back to the regular programing.

[jeldf]

because the sites dont care about the end users, they care about making money, the more codes they sell, the more money is made

Welcome The Fix. Glad you joined today to offer your wisdom!

[JCO]

Welcome The Fix. Glad you joined today to offer your wisdom!

LOL The Fix 's stay here was short lived... We dont need pot stirers that are impersonating admins from other sites.

[Nostradamus]

too bad he was banned because his US / Cdn soil thing doesn't hold any water. DN has came across the border more than once to go after people in canada. It might not be as easy for them but they have done it before

[JCO]

too bad he was banned because his US / Cdn soil thing doesn't hold any water. DN has came across the border more than once to go after people in canada. It might not be as easy for them but they have done it before

He can still read the post Nostra.. We all remember Dark Angel dont we.. And that is just one of many..
Nagra and Dn can work on both sides of the border. Canada may be more problematic and expensive for DN but it is not beyond their reach..
Cuba may be a different story..LOL

[kyzursozay]

How about Mexico??? lol ....... I'd much rather have to deal with some old commies driving 50's era lead sleds held together with duct tape & bailing wire ..... than have to cross the Rio Grande to serve well armed kidnaper/Cartel types........

[ftaalltheway]

too bad he was banned because his US / Cdn soil thing doesn't hold any water. DN has came across the border more than once to go after people in canada. It might not be as easy for them but they have done it before

difference being,,, he was suggesting endusers
that bought dons off VG will get these letters
per maggi

of course Nag can cross border and nail servers/ops
as in DA BUT no way cnd endusers will get letters
re; latest fiasco as it relates to buying dons
from resellers to canucks BY a canuck, no less
imo

the 2 cases pending on CDN soil currently
are for those who ran servers out of retail shop
and even then endusers werent named in those


funny how these days nag has ecmd dn and NOT bev p$s
that should tell yas something,,,

stealing signals
and/or buying dons are 2 different kettles of fish to fry
and btw many many thousands of dons from wuff were sold
to canucks see any letters out?? and you wont either
the statute is long passed for many anyways but THATS a whole other
kettle
just sayin

b4 i forget,,,if VG doesnt chime in on any other board, including here,
later on then something got to him in a bad way,,,i wish him best of luck
hes a good dude,,,as many have said and will continue to say,,,
we all know the risks ,,,resellers are there to help peeps get dons and make $$$
along the way,,,all peeps can hope for is they dont keep personal info
on file,,,as for VG hopefully he will clarify to reassure the peeps he
sold to they can rest assured he wiped it all out,,,ESP since
many are now worried and dont want another WUFF siutation,,,
i think he owes that much considering 99% arent buying his
reasons to semi-retire

[niceguy]

same song different day

[surfinisfun]

Its sad though, it looks like TMac007 is having a tough day closing threads, even the get well VG thread.

I've seen this before.....its smoking folks.

[johnnylarue]

I think he has become anal retentive.... in other words he had a court order shoved up his butt :)

and I really don't know if he is Canadian or just landed immigrant status but it wouldn't be the first time JJ drove across the "bridge" after a canuck

He had an X marked on his forehead because he was the only official reseller for nfps.

[lonster]

I seemed to have pi$$ed a couple people off at zeta. I never even really said anything, just enough to make people
think, look and research.

I was here before under lonster1 and know the BPG and Wuff stories. I also know how satfix handled themselves. Far more
respectable than what Zeta is doing now. They are keeping people in the dark and misleading them. To me I find that to be blatantly lying and disrespectful.

Here, the staff came out and told the truth.

At Zeta they are also censoring the forums by deleting posts that suggest vgiddy has come under fire. To me that proves they know what happened and are trying to keep a user base the best they can because we all know that people scatter when stuff like this happens.

[iq180]

same song different day
NO, same song different bird,LOL.

[southbeach]

I agree 100% with lonster, funny they always referred everyone to VG even though there were much risk and now all of this. That shows us that all they care about is the $$$$. Now no one can sell D#, but this is damage control after the bust

[johnnylarue]

It is possible that he had an Anton Pillar order put on him if he is in Canada. Dik & Bev have had that done before. If he communicates about his situation to anyone, even family, he would be held in contempt. Back in 2006, Dik/Bev/Nagra got an AP order on a lot of shops/sites in the Toronto area.

[yappapi]

i can't believe JCO banned a visiting admin..
LOL!!!

[surfinisfun]

It is possible that he had an Anton Pillar order put on him if he is in Canada. Dik & Bev have had that done before. If he communicates about his situation to anyone, even family, he would be held in contempt. Back in 2006, Dik/Bev/Nagra got an AP order on a lot of shops/sites in the Toronto area.

Quite possible.

[lonster]

It is possible that he had an Anton Pillar order put on him if he is in Canada. Dik & Bev have had that done before. If he communicates about his situation to anyone, even family, he would be held in contempt. Back in 2006, Dik/Bev/Nagra got an AP order on a lot of shops/sites in the Toronto area.

It displays why the whole "no contact" issue is now in effect.

[dishuser]

difference being,,, he was suggesting endusers
that bought dons off VG will get these letters
per maggi

of course Nag can cross border and nail servers/ops
as in DA BUT no way cnd endusers will get letters
re; latest fiasco as it relates to buying dons
from resellers to canucks BY a canuck, no less
imo

the 2 cases pending on CDN soil currently
are for those who ran servers out of retail shop
and even then endusers werent named in those


funny how these days nag has ecmd dn and NOT bev p$s
that should tell yas something,,,

stealing signals
and/or buying dons are 2 different kettles of fish to fry
and btw many many thousands of dons from wuff were sold
to canucks see any letters out?? and you wont either
the statute is long passed for many anyways but THATS a whole other
kettle
just sayin

b4 i forget,,,if VG doesnt chime in on any other board, including here,
later on then something got to him in a bad way,,,i wish him best of luck
hes a good dude,,,as many have said and will continue to say,,,
we all know the risks ,,,resellers are there to help peeps get dons and make $$$
along the way,,,all peeps can hope for is they dont keep personal info
on file,,,as for VG hopefully he will clarify to reassure the peeps he
sold to they can rest assured he wiped it all out,,,ESP since
many are now worried and dont want another WUFF siutation,,,
i think he owes that much considering 99% arent buying his
reasons to semi-retire
you sure are ignorant

[ShotGun]

Some ppl go into hiding or retirement because of shrink dink,,,,, Pfffftttttt.............

[lonster]

TMac said there will be an announcement tonight, so we will see what the word is then I guess.

[ftaalltheway]

you sure are ignorant

hey now,,,how did you guess? thats my log in PW
your much too kind,,,what?? you take a happy pill today? ;)

[JCO]

I seemed to have pi$$ed a couple people off at zeta. I never even really said anything, just enough to make people
think, look and research.

I was here before under lonster1 and know the BPG and Wuff stories. I also know how satfix handled themselves. Far more
respectable than what Zeta is doing now. They are keeping people in the dark and misleading them. To me I find that to be blatantly lying and disrespectful.

Here, the staff came out and told the truth.

At Zeta they are also censoring the forums by deleting posts that suggest vgiddy has come under fire. To me that proves they know what happened and are trying to keep a user base the best they can because we all know that people scatter when stuff like this happens.


If anything happened I doubt staff there is aware of details. And if they were why should they post anything before they have confirmation.. What a bunch of useless drama..

I agree 100% with lonster, funny they always referred everyone to VG even though there were much risk and now all of this. That shows us that all they care about is the $$$$. Now no one can sell D#, but this is damage control after the bust
Being an admin and the only reseller on the official support site is a very attractive target.

It is possible that he had an Anton Pillar order put on him if he is in Canada. Dik & Bev have had that done before. If he communicates about his situation to anyone, even family, he would be held in contempt. Back in 2006, Dik/Bev/Nagra got an AP order on a lot of shops/sites in the Toronto area.
I believe it hapened before with the NF raids..

i can't believe JCO banned a visiting admin..
LOL!!!
That was an imposter stirring the pot.. I left the posts there, The real The Fix would never say anything like that.


hey now,,,how did you guess? thats my log in PW
your much too kind,,,what?? you take a happy pill today? ;)

Lets keep this conversation polite and respectfull please, after all this is the rumors section so no need to get carried away..

[Nostradamus]

At Zeta they are also censoring the forums by deleting posts that suggest vgiddy has come under fire. To me that proves they know what happened and are trying to keep a user base the best they can because we all know that people scatter when stuff like this happens.

Just goes to show you how smart they really are over there! It is almost impossible to clean up a database when people keep adding more to it by the minute. If the geniuses were smart they would shut the forums down until they had all the important stuff purged and then delete new posts as they are added.

now I don't think anybody ever accused them guys of being overly intelligent but damn they can't figure that out on their own and yet people keep swarming to them with their checkbooks and personal info, and those that already have paid are now worried about a new swarm of letters. Damn if it wasn't so pathetically sad it would be laughable.

Reminds me of that joke about a redneck's last words. "Hey ya'll watch this!"

[johnnylarue]

TMac said there will be an announcement tonight, so we will see what the word is then I guess.

You won't any truth out of TMac.....or anyone at that site...

[ftaalltheway]

If anything happened I doubt staff there is aware of details. And if they were why should they post anything before they have confirmation.. What a bunch of useless drama..

Being an admin and the only reseller on the official support site is a very attractive target.

I believe it hapened before with the NF raids..

That was an imposter stirring the pot.. I left the posts there, The real The Fix would never say anything like that.



Lets keep this conversation polite and respectfull please, after all this is the rumors section so no need to get carried away..

yep but loads more drama with NF raid thats for sure

and will keep it respectfull, i agree,,,just thought that pretty tame
of DU and thought something was wrong,,, then again,,hes been
pretty tame ever since you guys reopened the shop,, could be
old age,,i know thats what got me tamer,, ;)

[lonster]

Oh I know Johnny.
Thanks Nos, the really sad thing about it is this has happened to so many sites and people and yet Zeta doesn't seem as if they have learnt anything from any of it. The way they handled vgiddys account and posted the "story" is a poor attempt at damage control. It shows me they really think people are either dumb or just dont pay attention.

In the end the truth will be told, I just dont see it coming from that site in particular.

[ftaalltheway]

Oh I know Johnny.
Thanks Nos, the really sad thing about it is this has happened to so many sites and people and yet Zeta doesn't seem as if they have learnt anything from any of it. The way they handled vgiddys account and posted the "story" is a poor attempt at damage control. It shows me they really think people are either dumb or just dont pay attention.

In the end the truth will be told, I just dont see it coming from that site in particular.

the truth is not ever told,,,not really,,,thats why these sections exist
for good ole speculations ;)

[kenkell1]

the truth is not ever told,,,not really,,,thats why these sections exist
for good ole speculations ;)

I'd rather use logic and Mr Vgiddy is done like dinner. Like it or not.

[JCO]

the truth is not ever told,,,not really,,,thats why these sections exist
for good ole speculations ;)

Whats posted in these sections and a buck wont even get you a cup of coffee..LOL

[JCO]

I'd rather use logic and Mr Vgiddy is done like dinner. Like it or not.

A ban is usualy a sign that dinner is served..LOL
I have seldom seen Bans reversed..

[ftaalltheway]

A ban is usualy a sign that dinner is served..LOL
I have seldom seen Bans reversed..

hes posted here b4 as visiting admin, no?? anyway
i dont know but dont think he was banned
could be wrong

[JCO]

hes posted here b4 as visiting admin, no?? anyway
i dont know but dont think he was banned
could be wrong

Yes VG has posted here as a VD.. I was refering to him being banned at his homesite.

[ShotGun]

hey now,,,how did you guess? thats my log in PW
your much too kind,,,what?? you take a happy pill today? ;)

I take happy pills buy every 4 hours,,,, want me to miss one so I can address you?

Your messing with a Brother!

L33ts ,,,,,,

[ShotGun]

I have known his prota,,,,, for a LONG TIME.... is G Man showing sighs of Shrink Dink as well?

[sodusme]

I think he has become anal retentive.... in other words he had a court order shoved up his butt :)

and I really don't know if he is Canadian or just landed immigrant status but it wouldn't be the first time JJ drove across the "bridge" after a canuck

I don't care who you are now THAT is funny!!!!

[ftaalltheway]

Yes VG has posted here as a VD.. I was refering to him being banned at his homesite.

yep i know u were,,,maybe you will read more about it there,,,
as i know you visit,,,shhh lol
anyways,,,it was NOT a ban ;)

[JCO]

Both of you behave Or your out of here, first and FINAL warning.

[ShotGun]

sodusme....................we are old friends,,,, you might wanta get him knowed up <Muff.........I was glade to see ya now I have to wipe......... awwwwww

[JCO]

yep i know u were,,,maybe you will read more about it there,,,
as i know you visit,,,shhh lol
anyways,,,it was NOT a ban ;)

I dont know nor is it any of my business what goes on in other peoples lives or at their home sites..

[ShotGun]

Rodger that NASA BEEP,,,,,,,,,,,,, then Kokes gets pissed///

[ftaalltheway]

I dont know nor is it any of my business what goes on in other peoples lives or at their home sites..

well you were just there, no?? or maybe someone is using YOUR nic there? lol
anyways just correcting mis-information

[sodusme]

Their he is [w00t]!~ sup Muff,,,,,,awwwweeeeeeee,,,,,,, if your messing around you will be laying around,,,,,,, RIGHT ON>.... they hinder me from cussing..... MF`rs................... Sup <,muff?

Now we have a team!

LOL whats up buddy? Long time no see. ;)

[ShotGun]

good ta see ya and hang around,,,, stay in touch with me ........[w00t]!~

[StanW]

How about letting this thread take a breather for a lil bit - we'll pick up where we left a bit later :thumbsup:

[ricky1lung]

this was posted last night on their home site by the new admin the fix
here is the c&p

Very Important Announcement
In light of all the rumors and changes, here at FTAZETA, we must address the current situation and challenges re:
Vgiddy/GMan and Staff

I am NOT in the rumor business. I will only report the facts as I KNOW THEM. I will NOT speculate. I will NOT lie.
Vgiddy:
This is what we KNOW.
Vgiddy is SICK and has retired.
We are waiting to learn what his professionals tell him about the prospect of returning to the FTA scene.
Those prospects look VERY dim.
I am no dummy. I KNOW what is being passed around the net "as FACT". THE FACT IS: I do not KNOW any more than this.
When or IF I learn of more PERTINENT information, it will be passed along. Information that could cause harm to our members WILL be passed along, IF it proves to be FACT.

Gman:
GMan has simply QUIT.. He is a VERY bright young man who has made the decision to leave the FTA scene and pursue his career.
That future SHALL remain unnamed.

We should ALL be thankful for the hard work and creativity this young man has devoted to this site and the FTA community.

We should NOT speculate. Gman has no problems or issues.. He simply decided to move on... NOTHING more and NOTHING less.


The Staff:
With the changes at the Admin Level, It was decided there will be some Staff changes..
Some will stay and some will move on (or have moved on already). The current Staff is committed to providing the best service available.

The Focus of our Staff is:
1. Assist members with equipment - technical issues and help them FIND answers.
2. Guide members to reliable information and sources of NFPS product.
3. Maintain Order on the site.


The Staff will NOT sell/buy or transfer ANY Donations.
The Staff will insure that NO ONE is involved in re-selling donations on THIS SITE. ZERO EXCEPTIONS.
There will be ZERO TOLERANCE. NO WARNINGS. The First OFFENSE is a PERMANENT BAN.

Our site will struggle with the challenges and changes. There are more changes on the immediate horizon. Those will be announced once I've had time to consult with the our Staff.

Our Staff is the best in the business. THEY will go the distance required to help but they are NOT responsible for EVERY answer to EVERY question. The basis of a forum is "COLLECTIVE knowledge" . We have around 10,000 "Active" members. ALL of whom count toward the "Collective Knowledge Base". The MEMBERS must step up and help answer MOST of the questions on our site. There is no longer a culture of "waiting for a MOD" to answer.. The membership must do this. The Staff will INSIST upon this.
That is NOT to say that MANY MANY of our members are not participating. THEY are and should continue. I am referring to the OTHER 9000 or so who remain silent.


Thank you for your attention.
The FIX

[johnnylarue]

this was posted last night on their home site by the new admin the fix
here is the c&p

Very Important Announcement
In light of all the rumors and changes, here at FTAZETA, we must address the current situation and challenges re:
Vgiddy/GMan and Staff

I am NOT in the rumor business. I will only report the facts as I KNOW THEM. I will NOT speculate. I will NOT lie.
Vgiddy:
This is what we KNOW.
Vgiddy is SICK and has retired.
We are waiting to learn what his professionals tell him about the prospect of returning to the FTA scene.
Those prospects look VERY dim.
I am no dummy. I KNOW what is being passed around the net "as FACT". THE FACT IS: I do not KNOW any more than this.
When or IF I learn of more PERTINENT information, it will be passed along. Information that could cause harm to our members WILL be passed along, IF it proves to be FACT.

Gman:
GMan has simply QUIT.. He is a VERY bright young man who has made the decision to leave the FTA scene and pursue his career.
That future SHALL remain unnamed.

We should ALL be thankful for the hard work and creativity this young man has devoted to this site and the FTA community.

We should NOT speculate. Gman has no problems or issues.. He simply decided to move on... NOTHING more and NOTHING less.


Translation: vgiddy got nailed, & GMAN, knowing what happened, got out of there.

[southbeach]

Yeah he got nailed alright or there wouldn't all of sudden a ban on selling D#

[dunitagin]

Gman:
GMan has simply QUIT.. He is a VERY bright young man who has made the decision to leave the FTA scene and pursue his career.
That future SHALL remain unnamed.
Thank you for your attention.
The FIX

Seems like a replay of the Mingo saga a few years back when he retired to go to England with his new family and a short while later, D Fuss and his staff @ Ariza gave a deposition that killed Panarex and Globecast (think that is the name of the Pansat Manufacturer.) and Hivision (homesat)

[bigbird]

Sure he got what Wuf got. Someone should ask The Fix if this were true why were all his posts wiped and a new join date added.........

bigbird

[ftaalltheway]

Sure he got what Wuf got. Someone should ask The Fix if this were true why were all his posts wiped and a new join date added.........

bigbird

snakebite also all wiped out data at zeta BUT still
goin at beta,,,zeta will close doors soon cuz no way
any1 stupid enough to trust zeta,,,huge risk to be
involved with them now,,,i mean why not allow
another (socalled trusted member) to sell dons
at the site?? VG was forced out by either nag or PP
or both

which brings to mind,,,why is it ok for those mods and admins
to wipe out their data and NOT ok for any of us?? all
our data remains UNLESS like satfix did here, perge DVB
b4 reopening,,,curious is all,,,anyone know??

[alex70olds]

I have known his prota,,,,, for a LONG TIME.... is G Man showing sighs of Shrink Dink as well?

I guess you called that one, like over a month ago!

[Angel Eyes]

Gman got out ..and that's a fact..
don't know about the rest

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

difference being,,, he was suggesting endusers
that bought dons off VG will get these letters
per maggi

of course Nag can cross border and nail servers/ops
as in DA BUT no way cnd endusers will get letters
re; latest fiasco as it relates to buying dons
from resellers to canucks BY a canuck, no less
imo

the 2 cases pending on CDN soil currently
are for those who ran servers out of retail shop
and even then endusers werent named in those


funny how these days nag has ecmd dn and NOT bev p$s
that should tell yas something,,,

stealing signals
and/or buying dons are 2 different kettles of fish to fry
and btw many many thousands of dons from wuff were sold
to canucks see any letters out?? and you wont either
the statute is long passed for many anyways but THATS a whole other
kettle
just sayin

b4 i forget,,,if VG doesnt chime in on any other board, including here,
later on then something got to him in a bad way,,,i wish him best of luck
hes a good dude,,,as many have said and will continue to say,,,
we all know the risks ,,,resellers are there to help peeps get dons and make $$$
along the way,,,all peeps can hope for is they dont keep personal info
on file,,,as for VG hopefully he will clarify to reassure the peeps he
sold to they can rest assured he wiped it all out,,,ESP since
many are now worried and dont want another WUFF siutation,,,
i think he owes that much considering 99% arent buying his
reasons to semi-retire


End users would not be named in those cases. They could possibly be pursued after with demand letters if they have evidence. The financial motivation to pursue Canadian end users I believe is less than US end users.


The Civil possible penalties in Canada for end users in Canada I believe would be less than in the US from what I see. In the US they claim violations on three different statues each with their own penalties. I think in Canada there would be one claim only based on the Canadian Radio Communication Act. There is a question whether the potential plaintiffs would be limited to a maximum award fine of a $1,000 on an individual person. I say that because people are interpretating the civil penalty section differently so wouldn't really know which interpretation is correct until there was a case if that is going to happen. If the max is only a $1,000 then one can think any demand letter would be for a $1,000 unless they came up with another claim other than the Radio Communication Act.


I do not know what you mean when you say the Statue has long passed for many.




CIVIL ACTION


Rules applicable
(2) In an action under subsection (1) against a person,

(a) a monetary judgment may not exceed one thousand dollars where the person is an individual and the conduct engaged in by the person is neither contrary to paragraph 9(1)(e) or 10(1)(b) nor engaged in for commercial gain;




GS2

[ftaalltheway]

End users would not be named in those cases. They could possibly be pursued after with demand letters if they have evidence. The financial motivation to pursue Canadian end users I believe is less than US end users.


The Civil possible penalties in Canada for end users in Canada I believe would be less than in the US from what I see. In the US they claim violations on three different statues each with their own penalties. I think in Canada there would be one claim only based on the Canadian Radio Communication Act. There is a question whether the potential plaintiffs would be limited to a maximum award fine of a $1,000 on an individual person. I say that because people are interpretating the civil penalty section differently so wouldn't really know which interpretation is correct until there was a case if that is going to happen. If the max is only a $1,000 then one can think any demand letter would be for a $1,000 unless they came up with another claim other than the Radio Communication Act.


I do not know what you mean when you say the Statue has long passed for many.

GS2

it varies BUT
c/p
--------------------------------------
Waiving the Defense
The defendant uses a statute of limitations defense when the plaintiff has brought suit after the allotted time limit has lapsed. Although it is usually in the defendant’s best interest to use this defense when possible, the court cannot force a defendant to use it, according to LawBrain. However, in some cases, the defendants will waive the right to use this defense through an agreement of the parties. This can happen in a debtor’s agreement to waive the statue of limitations in exchange for a creditor’s promise not to sue.
-------------------------------------
btw ,,,not sure what it is in Texas

[fn59]

Seems like a replay of the Mingo saga a few years back when he retired to go to England with his new family and a short while later, D Fuss and his staff @ Ariza gave a deposition that killed Panarex and Globecast (think that is the name of the Pansat Manufacturer.) and Hivision (homesat)

I think the manufacturer was Global Tec.
Globecast is another sat provider on 97west.

[dunitagin]

I think the manufacturer was Global Tec.
Globecast is another sat provider on 97west.

You might be right on Globaltec, I would have to dig up the old puter and look up the PDF to confirm, all I know is that it was panarex was 1 of the importers they sang on.

[Nostradamus]

mingo my old chew toy! There is a name I never heard in awhile LOL

[bkr™]

mingo my old chew toy! There is a name I never heard in awhile LOL
Why am I suddenly getting flash backs:innocent:

[Anubis]

Why am I suddenly getting flash backs:innocent:
Yup Nostradamus is good at giving those!:tehe:

[JCO]

Yup Nostradamus is good at giving those!:tehe:

Yup like a bad acid trip..LOL

[tito2020]

Some user reported months back his paypal account was flagged.

[JCO]

Some user reported months back his paypal account was flagged.

Who's PP account the user or someone else.. flaged PP is not out of the ordinary, depends on the number and value of the transactions..

[tito2020]

vgiddys account was flagged

[alex70olds]

vgiddys account was flagged

How could it not be? Stupid catches up with everybody eventually lol.

[tito2020]

Your right on that one

[bkr™]

Remember as Ron Wright proclaimed "you just can't fix stupid".

[ftaalltheway]

Remember as Ron Wright proclaimed "you just can't fix stupid".

white not wright,,close though ;)

[hondoharry]

How could it not be? Stupid catches up with everybody eventually lol.

My guesstimate is he made somewhere around 100 G's US. How stupid is that.

[ftaalltheway]

My guesstimate is he made somewhere around 100 G's US. How stupid is that.

stupid is a relative term.,,, You may be ignorant of some things but brilliant about others

he weighed the risks and no one knows if the $$$ he made was worth THAT risk

everything risky in life has its pros and cons,,,what he did was no less risky
than playing the stocks,,,if he walks away with 50% of what he made you can throw
"stupid" factor out the window,,,course all at the cost of one's health, depends on
individual's wealth or lack thereof

edit; esp since nag/dn doesnt construe his act (selling dons) or buying them as criminal? then
his only worry is civil?? so, stupid?? maybe, maybe not

[alex70olds]

My guesstimate is he made somewhere around 100 G's US. How stupid is that.

PayPal? How stupid is that? It is not like he was in Honduras.

[tipo99]

the time will tell the true.......

[ftaalltheway]

PayPal? How stupid is that? It is not like he was in Honduras.

actually honduras is an amercian ally,,,prob made half through bank
with email $$ transfers which NO way dn/nag can touch,,,imho

who knows where he funnelled his funds and who cares
so long as he doesnt roll over names of endusers, more power to him

[bkr™]

white not wright,,close though ;)
Yeh, prolly more correct than me, thanks for correction, where are those memory pills?...LOL

[fifties]

Reminds me of that joke about a redneck's last words. "Hey ya'll watch this!"
I've heard it this way;

"Here, hold my beer and watch this!"

[hondoharry]

actually honduras is an amercian ally,,,prob made half through bank
with email $$ transfers which NO way dn/nag can touch,,,imho

who knows where he funnelled his funds and who cares
so long as he doesnt roll over names of endusers, more power to him

If they got info from PayPal they already have the end user names and addresses. All they could get from him would be corroborating evidence such as forum nics leading to posts.

[johnnylarue]

PayPal? How stupid is that? It is not like he was in Honduras.

It would not be worth all the headaches if you get caught. If he had an AP order slapped on him, they would freeze his bank accounts, his other assets including his home, force him to cease & desist any activities related to his situation. Plus, they contact the CRA and find out if he has been declaring the income from his activities. Then you add up his legal costs, fines & the restitution he will be forced to pay.....yikes

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

It would not be worth all the headaches if you get caught. If he had an AP order slapped on him, they would freeze his bank accounts, his other assets including his home, force him to cease & desist any activities related to his situation. Plus, they contact the CRA and find out if he has been declaring the income from his activities. Then you add up his legal costs, fines & the restitution he will be forced to pay.....yikes


I don't know if they would do all that but if he has been served with an APO than he eithers obeys it or faces being in contempt of court. The problems than start to mount up and usually leads to some unplesant events or the defendant settling anyway.


The only thing the defendants gains with disobeying is the recognition he did not rat out. Now some believe that is the most important thing. The defendant has to way that importance versus the financial consequences he and family will be looking at.




GS2

[mrgreg]

Vìgiddy

FTA Newbie
StatusOffline
Join Date Mar 2013
Posts1
Post Thanks / Like
Upadate on my illness,etc.
I cannot say too much about my current circumstances but I wanted to let everyone know that I am alive and well. Apologies to anyone who may be hurt by my actions since it is not easy to fall on one's sword. To everyone, live long and prosper.


Take this as you want but it looks like he is not sick to me but fessing up more or less. Just my opinion.

[spike52]

This just gets better and better, lol, if it not for the thought he will roll on people it would be total entertainment like the old days Mr Sonicview bad car accident etc. just too funny.

[1boxman]

Vìgiddy

FTA Newbie
StatusOffline
Join Date Mar 2013
Posts1
Post Thanks / Like
Upadate on my illness,etc.
I cannot say too much about my current circumstances but I wanted to let everyone know that I am alive and well. Apologies to anyone who may be hurt by my actions since it is not easy to fall on one's sword. To everyone, live long and prosper.


Take this as you want but it looks like he is not sick to me but fessing up more or less. Just my opinion.

They must have deleted this right away ..lol

[mrgreg]

Ya it is already removed so he must not be welcome anymore.

[kijiji]

They must have deleted this right away ..lol I remember reading that over there !!!

[bigbird]

"It's not easy to fall on ones sword". This is actually very encouraging. Kinda sounds like he's going to take it from JJ and Nagra and won't turn over all his information. Thoughts?

bigbird

[DualTest]

"It's not easy to fall on ones sword". This is actually very encouraging. Kinda sounds like he's going to take it from JJ and Nagra and won't turn over all his information. Thoughts?

bigbird

If he has assets that he wants to protect. Don't count on it.

[fifties]

"It's not easy to fall on ones sword". This is actually very encouraging. Kinda sounds like he's going to take it from JJ and Nagra and won't turn over all his information. Thoughts?

bigbird
You didn't mention what he posted just before that, though; "Apologies to anyone who may be hurt by my actions";
doesn't look at all good for the peeps who bought their "donations" from him, using PayPal, in my speculation.

[iq180]

They must have deleted this right away ..lol
in other words if you have a= BODY CONDOM= put it on now, the sheet is about to hit the fan.

[kyzursozay]

as for pp releasing peoples info the guy who co-founded was CEO of pp is the same guy that co-founded Palantir. Don't think pp will have a problem with cross-border issues & if lawyers, investigators employ palantir software it would all be laid out like a roadmap/menu connecting all the dots. Transactions, ip's, websites, nics, threads, posts, times, dates, probably even corroborate ecm, port, specific ip time stamp etc. ...

[Nostradamus]

as for pp releasing peoples info the guy who co-founded was CEO of pp is the same guy that co-founded Palantir. Don't think pp will have a problem with cross-border issues & if lawyers, investigators employ palantir software it would all be laid out like a roadmap/menu connecting all the dots. Transactions, ip's, websites, nics, threads, posts, times, dates, probably even corroborate ecm, port, specific ip time stamp etc. ...

just one more reason why if you are going to play this game you don't post about being down or up, or having problems with specific channels... nothing like waving a flag to get attention as well

[JCO]

just one more reason why if you are going to play this game you don't post about being down or up, or having problems with specific channels... nothing like waving a flag to get attention as well

Umm is talking about ones plumber or maids experience compromising...

[bkr™]

Umm is talking about ones plumber or maids experience compromising...
I had a compromising experience with a maid...oops sorry wrong thread :innocent:

[JCO]

I had a compromising experience with a maid...oops sorry wrong thread :innocent:

Arnold , Is that you...LOL

[fifties]

Umm is talking about ones plumber or maids experience compromising...
Maybe less so than showing it...;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFVbgJ8BPvs/TsLs7HXE6mI/AAAAAAAADqU/LXXipqWXCUw/s640/5_SEXY-MAID--57006.jpg

[alex70olds]

The pressure was too much, falling on sword, changing servers, deleting/banning admins, yep they sure are doing a great job at rumor control!! LMFAO!

[bkr™]

Maybe less so than showing it...;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFVbgJ8BPvs/TsLs7HXE6mI/AAAAAAAADqU/LXXipqWXCUw/s640/5_SEXY-MAID--57006.jpg
So you know her too???...LOL
That duster...

[fifties]

So you know her too???...LOL
That duster...
The duster wasn't so bad; it was lacing up the front, afterwards...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFVbgJ8BPvs/TsLs7HXE6mI/AAAAAAAADqU/LXXipqWXCUw/s640/5_SEXY-MAID--57006.jpg

[Nostradamus]

The duster wasn't so bad; it was lacing up the front, afterwards...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFVbgJ8BPvs/TsLs7HXE6mI/AAAAAAAADqU/LXXipqWXCUw/s640/5_SEXY-MAID--57006.jpg

not sure if she was a mod / reseller or not but that is one helluva bust! :D

[kyzursozay]

Maybe less so than showing it...;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EFVbgJ8BPvs/TsLs7HXE6mI/AAAAAAAADqU/LXXipqWXCUw/s640/5_SEXY-MAID--57006.jpg

hmmm why do I suddenly get the feeling my tires are overinflated........

[bigbird]

The pressure was too much, falling on sword, changing servers, deleting/banning admins, yep they sure are doing a great job at rumor control!! LMFAO!

Yup..... All the sheep following Vgiddy to the doctors office.........errr JJ and Nagras attorneys. That site has turned into complete comedy with the new admin and mods. Stick your head in the sand and all will be good.

bigbird

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

The pressure was too much, falling on sword, changing servers, deleting/banning admins, yep they sure are doing a great job at rumor control!! LMFAO!


Like that has not been seen before and how successful it turns out to be.




GS2

[Anubis]

I had a compromising experience with a maid...oops sorry wrong thread :innocent:

At least you posted in the right section! :tehe:

[SatDaddy]

You didn't mention what he posted just before that, though; "Apologies to anyone who may be hurt by my actions";
doesn't look at all good for the peeps who bought their "donations" from him, using PayPal, in my speculation.

That was my impression as well. ie. It's not easy to fall on his sword, so he won't.
Why only PP people mentioned? Shouldn't anyone who went through that reseller, be worried? Didn't they take Visa as well? Email bank transfers - I believe he used that for folks north of the border?

[1boxman]

vigiddy is status shows banned now..

[Anubis]

vigiddy is status shows banned now..

Boy, sounds like quite the cover up ooops I mean confusion going on as to who is a staff member or not.

[hutch]

checked a couple of vgiddys old threads.... shows as 'guest'

[alex70olds]

checked a couple of vgiddys old threads.... shows as 'guest'

Yeah, dont know what site boxy was referring to. Still listed under "forum Leaders" and his profile is admin-retired at Beta, same since his nic was re-registered 3-22. The Fix lmfao I swear that guy reminds me of Gman for some reason. lol. The end is near :D lol

[Anubis]

Yeah, dont know what site boxy was referring to. Still listed under "forum Leaders" and his profile is admin-retired at Beta, same since his nic was re-registered 3-22. The Fix lmfao I swear that guy reminds me of Gman for some reason. lol. The end is near :D lol

Crap where's my tin foil cap! :tehe:

[JCO]

Crap where's my tin foil cap! :tehe:

Here it is, and I modified it with a chin strap so it wont get lost..LOL



17949

[Anubis]

Here it is, and I modified it with a chin strap so it wont get lost..LOL



17949
Awesome thanks. I feel much better now. :dancing_peng:

[iq180]

Here it is, and I modified it with a chin strap so it wont get lost..LOL



17949
can I get one of them hats LOL, my little window is back, I think I will need it before the week is up,LOL.

[bkr™]

can I get one of them hats LOL, my little window is back, I think I will need it before the week is up,LOL.
You are prolly correct, did we think otherwise? Perhaps a run on these hats is in order...:tehe:

[JCO]

WWW.KTEL tin foil hat... Send $9.99 and get 3 hats .Shipping and handling add up to $87.43 ..LOL

[Anubis]

WWW.KTEL tin foil hat... Send $9.99 and get 3 hats .Shipping and handling add up to $87.43 ..LOL

OMG they actually have a web site!!!
Man I miss those mini pop kids.:D

[alex70olds]

They got so much chit on this guy!

17956
17957

[JCO]

so arnie55 was a DN code buyer or was there a DB seizure..

[1boxman]

They got so much chit on this guy!

17956
17957

wow that was 2010 ..

[alex70olds]

so arnie55 was a DN code buyer or was there a DB seizure..

Both. That is ABA DB. Idiots knew the site was served and they acted like everything was fine.

Edit: ABA was served in 2011. If I had PM's there, I would have burned the db. Eric Johnson rolled so fast, rolled on everyone that posted files, staff, and VIP's.

[clarkie]

Good eyes 1boxman.. so how long has this been going on ?... i guess arnie55 was a little loose lipped... he just hung himself,, what i dont get is they ask you for your D.O.B... nobody could be that stupid , or could they ...its for a code not a credit card app...WTF

[alex70olds]

Good eyes 1boxman.. so how long has this been going on ?... i guess arnie55 was a little loose lipped... he just hung himself,, what i dont get is they ask you for your D.O.B... nobody could be that stupid , or could they ...its for a code not a credit card app...WTF

Loose Lips? That was a PM from ABA. That is the way IKS deals are handled, are they not? He was selling codes (VG) via PayPal, that is a hell of a lot worse giving your DOB for CC verification.

[joeblow]

stop feeling sorry for vgiddy, he was an idiot, and he will get what he deserves for his stupidity, and anybody who purchased "donations" from him using their REAL PP AND INFO have nobody to blame but themselves, that was your own stupidity, not his! expect a nice court document soon!

yes he was busted, yes he lives in canada, in the town of thorold ontario, near niagara falls, i know him personally,

anybody who purchased "donations" from him should be very concerned and worried now, letters are coming your way, especially if you live in canada,

how can anybody be this stupid? to be an "official" reseller with their own real info? complete stupidity and ignorance,

i know vgiddy personally way back from abadss, but im sorry, vgiddy deserves what he gets,

i tried to warn vgiddy and the entire abadss community about private servers, and end users being busted, and sellers being sued just before abadss went down under a different nic, nobody would listen to me, and some laughed at me, so now i dont feel sorry for anybody,

[surfinisfun]

stop feeling sorry for vgiddy, he was an idiot, and he will get what he deserves for his stupidity, and anybody who purchased "donations" from him using their REAL PP AND INFO have nobody to blame but themselves, that was your own stupidity, not his! expect a nice court document soon!

yes he was busted, yes he lives in canada, in the town of thorold ontario, near niagara falls, i know him personally,

anybody who purchased "donations" from him should be very concerned and worried now, letters are coming your way, especially if you live in canada,

how can anybody be this stupid? to be an "official" reseller with their own real info? complete stupidity and ignorance,

i know vgiddy personally way back from abadss, but im sorry, vgiddy deserves what he gets,

i tried to warn vgiddy and the entire abadss community about private servers, and end users being busted, and sellers being sued just before abadss went down under a different nic, nobody would listen to me, and some laughed at me, so now i dont feel sorry for anybody,

Know him personally, calls him an idiot and warned everyone years ago from ABA....

I love people like you that come in after the fact with this kind of post saying....i told you i told you.

Strange that you're not brave enough (while playing mister i told everyone) not to reveal your nic from ABA.

[surfinisfun]

Know him personally, calls him an idiot and warned everyone years ago from ABA....

I love people like you that come in after the fact with this kind of post saying....i told you i told you.

Strange that you're not brave enough (while playing mister i told everyone) not to reveal your nic from ABA.

OH, and for the record i recall one man in particular posting warning at ABA when chit was hitting the fan and it was sod, he posts here under his own nick though.

[iq180]

stop feeling sorry for vgiddy, he was an idiot, and he will get what he deserves for his stupidity, and anybody who purchased "donations" from him using their REAL PP AND INFO have nobody to blame but themselves, that was your own stupidity, not his! expect a nice court document soon!

yes he was busted, yes he lives in canada, in the town of thorold ontario, near niagara falls, i know him personally,

anybody who purchased "donations" from him should be very concerned and worried now, letters are coming your way, especially if you live in canada,

how can anybody be this stupid? to be an "official" reseller with their own real info? complete stupidity and ignorance,

i know vgiddy personally way back from abadss, but im sorry, vgiddy deserves what he gets,

i tried to warn vgiddy and the entire abadss community about private servers, and end users being busted, and sellers being sued just before abadss went down under a different nic, nobody would listen to me, and some laughed at me, so now i dont feel sorry for anybody,
NICE first post and you are who,Hmmmmmm.

[Angel Eyes]

NICE first post and you are who,Hmmmmmm.

another reseller..that's who

[Nostradamus]

don't ya just love how these geniuses pop up0 all full of piss and vinegar but they don't have the gumption to use the nick everybody knows them by. apparently from his own admission he likes using aliases LOL brave boy there! :)

[SMiller007]

stop feeling sorry for vgiddy, he was an idiot, and he will get what he deserves for his stupidity, and anybody who purchased "donations" from him using their REAL PP AND INFO have nobody to blame but themselves, that was your own stupidity, not his! expect a nice court document soon!

yes he was busted, yes he lives in canada, in the town of thorold ontario, near niagara falls, i know him personally,

anybody who purchased "donations" from him should be very concerned and worried now, letters are coming your way, especially if you live in canada,

how can anybody be this stupid? to be an "official" reseller with their own real info? complete stupidity and ignorance,

i know vgiddy personally way back from abadss, but im sorry, vgiddy deserves what he gets,

i tried to warn vgiddy and the entire abadss community about private servers, and end users being busted, and sellers being sued just before abadss went down under a different nic, nobody would listen to me, and some laughed at me, so now i dont feel sorry for anybody,

First off I'd like to say Hi and I'm happy to be a new member of the community :thumbsup: . Next though I gotta say to joeblow, aba was my daily hangout for several years before they went down, and I dont recall your name at all. I know vg though, and nobody has ever been willing to help a guy out more than him. He'd even give a stranger his phone number to walk him through problems over the phone. Until I get a dik letter of my own I will speak nothing bad about this man. So, before you run around the net to every fta community talking your smack to anyone who will listen, maybe you should just chill out and just see how this whole thing shakes down.

[Recove52]

stop feeling sorry for vgiddy, he was an idiot, and he will get what he deserves for his stupidity, and anybody who purchased "donations" from him using their REAL PP AND INFO have nobody to blame but themselves, that was your own stupidity, not his! expect a nice court document soon!

yes he was busted, yes he lives in canada, in the town of thorold ontario, near niagara falls, i know him personally,

anybody who purchased "donations" from him should be very concerned and worried now, letters are coming your way, especially if you live in canada,

how can anybody be this stupid? to be an "official" reseller with their own real info? complete stupidity and ignorance,

i know vgiddy personally way back from abadss, but im sorry, vgiddy deserves what he gets,

i tried to warn vgiddy and the entire abadss community about private servers, and end users being busted, and sellers being sued just before abadss went down under a different nic, nobody would listen to me, and some laughed at me, so now i dont feel sorry for anybody,You sound as if you fell on the same sword why would you post he lives at ? and You know him personnaly? an then come here with a thread like this .He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but it sounds as if he now has troubles enough Hell kick em again it,s not like charlies not allready puttin the boots to em.

[dishuser]

where did he say they were friends?
You sound as if you fell on the same sword why would you post he lives at ? and You know him personnaly?and you are friends? an then come here with a thread like this .He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but it sounds as if he now has troubles enough Hell kick em again it,s not like charlies not allready puttin the boots to em.

[Recove52]

@ DU I stand corrected thanks post edited I see ya still have sharp eyes LOL :tape:

[fifties]

expect a nice court document soon!

Spoken like a true DN stooge.

How long you been working for them?

[alex70olds]

Know him personally, calls him an idiot and warned everyone years ago from ABA....

I love people like you that come in after the fact with this kind of post saying....i told you i told you.

Strange that you're not brave enough (while playing mister i told everyone) not to reveal your nic from ABA.
Lmao its Joe, my favorite sat conspiracy expert. You got a blog? Hehe

OH, and for the record i recall one man in particular posting warning at ABA when chit was hitting the fan and it was sod, he posts here under his own nick though.

Lmao dont you remember the warnings from hijacked nics? Or what about the time you jerkoffs let rev make pedo allegations about RJ ? When Eric bought that honey pot, the member number was fabricated through bots registering members,with no HV. 300K, RIGHT!


NICE first post and you are who,Hmmmmmm.

Man that's crazy Joe, seriously. Ask him, he will tell ya. Lol

[alex70olds]

Lol here is Joe at his best
http://www.abbaswatchman.com/multi_billion_dollar_crime_again.htm

[Hannibalector]

Lol here is Joe at his best
http://www.abbaswatchman.com/multi_billion_dollar_crime_again.htm


how much crack does that guy smoke

[DualTest]

Lol here is Joe at his best
http://www.abbaswatchman.com/multi_billion_dollar_crime_again.htm

Wow that is some serious tinfoil crap.

[1boxman]

Both. That is ABA DB. Idiots knew the site was served and they acted like everything was fine.

Edit: ABA was served in 2011. If I had PM's there, I would have burned the db. Eric Johnson rolled so fast, rolled on everyone that posted files, staff, and VIP's.

Yup ..still amazes me why the site know and still keep going ..Plus they where hacked ..with a injection ..have the url some where .

[Jdread]

Granted the Guy might have made a few mistakes along the way, but why are we behaving as if he committed murder. Having read some of the posts here it is as if they have a personal vendetta against the guy.Let us just chill and allow this incident to play out one way or the other. I just wish him all the best no need to crucify him.

[smallyjohnson]

Some ppl go into hiding or retirement because of shrink dink,,,,, Pfffftttttt............. what are you saying here? some of us just naturally have smaller units than the rest

[iq180]

what are you saying here? some of us just naturally have smaller units than the rest
yep, but the ones with the large unit seem to have the smallest brain,LOL.

[JCO]

yep, but the ones with the large unit seem to have the smallest brain,LOL.

That could be related to diverted blood flow..LOL

[Nostradamus]

That could be related to diverted blood flow..LOL

now I know why I have a genius IQ and a pair of tweezers

[jvvh5897]

What are you guys talking about?

[abouttosnap]

What are you guys talking about?

You'll have to forgive some of em. Too many hard drugs. lol

[fifties]

now I know why I have a genius IQ and a pair of tweezers
Your little head still doing the thinking, instead of the big one? ;)

[sodusme]

OH, and for the record i recall one man in particular posting warning at ABA when chit was hitting the fan and it was sod, he posts here under his own nick though.

True enough I was there that night when it was officially 'hacked'.

I asked my admin and another staff member at XPC about the 'screen' that was pulling up and was told this:


Its looks somebody has a shell somewhere on the website.
This looks like the menu bar from c99/r57:

[ Sec. Info ][ Files ][ Console ][ Sql ][ Php ][ Safe mode ][ String tools ][ Bruteforce ][ Network ][ Self remove

My advice is to check every php/xml/pl/cgi file to be sure.

My admin even offered to help Eric clean up the site but he never took us up on it. Personally that guy is a friggin' idiot and should never run a website again.


Some curious things about this is: Why the hell are you seeing a shel when you try to post? There is something seriously wrong and that is a sure fire sign to stop visiting that site.

They got the exploit from exploit-db.com, which is the new exploit database (like milw0rm) from the makers of backtrack

And the fact that most of the sites files havent been edited since 2006...

All in all, that site is compromised and needs to be shut down immediately by the owner. If you could give us some more information about where and when you get this message, or a screenshot. That would help.

If the owner want's help he can contact me at XXXXXX@team-xpc(dot)com and I can guide him from clearing up the site.

I logged out that day and never went back....

[norton13]

Same old kick the dog down.

[sodusme]

Same old kick the dog down.

What are you talking about?

If you're referring to me talking smack about Eric the admin that ran ABA then you're preaching to the choir. The guy is an idiot and should have taken the damn site offline when he was told that it was compromised. He refused to do so and put tens of thousands of people at risk of having their information exposed to DN/Nagra by not doing so.

So yeah that is one dog I'll kick right in the ribs.

[skywalker999]

:lol:
Your little head still doing the thinking, instead of the big one? ;)

And maybe he needs the hobble telescope to see it

[rogitts]

Dont believe all the hoopla and lies they are feeding you on FTAZeta that he is sick….Its all BS

My sources say that not only former Admin VGiddy got busted but also Gman alias Gopaul got busted with Paypal….I guess VGiddy was splitting the profits with him….Gman was the other Administrator on Zeta
Vgiddy was a fool to begin with….He actually made a post in announcements on Zeta with all his Paypal info on how to buy codes….I mean how careless and stupid can a person be ? He left it all out there for people to see…..LOL….. Did he think that he was Jesus or something and that no one could touch him…….What a STUPID FOOL

[junior1]

Nice first post. I was going to welcome you here.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Dont believe all the hoopla and lies they are feeding you on FTABeta that he is sick….Its all BS

My sources say that not only former Admin VGiddy got busted but also Gman alias Gopaul got busted with Paypal….I guess VGiddy was splitting the profits with him….Gman was the other Administrator on Zeta
Vgiddy was a fool to begin with….He actually made a post in announcements on Zeta with all his Paypal info on how to buy codes….I mean how careless and stupid can a person be ? He left it all out there for people to see…..LOL….. Did he think that he was Jesus or something and that no one could touch him…….What a STUPID FOOL


In the old days if someone was hit with a seal people would try to get the word out to warn people. That was the main concern or only concern. Now its how can I use the situation if true to sh*t on people/sites I do not care for.

The problem is people start coming out after the fact, if its a fact when its too late and there is not enough warning before the event happens that it could happen and if you try you are branded something and told your not welcome.



GS2

[joeblow]

Dont believe all the hoopla and lies they are feeding you on FTABeta that he is sick….Its all BS

My sources say that not only former Admin VGiddy got busted but also Gman alias Gopaul got busted with Paypal….I guess VGiddy was splitting the profits with him….Gman was the other Administrator on Zeta
Vgiddy was a fool to begin with….He actually made a post in announcements on Zeta with all his Paypal info on how to buy codes….I mean how careless and stupid can a person be ? He left it all out there for people to see…..LOL….. Did he think that he was Jesus or something and that no one could touch him…….What a STUPID FOOL

i agree 100% with everything you said,

ftabeta is a joke, i just noticed they deleted another thread where a member reported receiving a letter, the thread was about 5 pages long, now its gone, instead of trying to inform and help their members they want to leave them in the dark, what a joke

[fifties]

Dont believe all the hoopla and lies they are feeding you on FTABeta that he is sick….Its all BS

My sources say that not only former Admin VGiddy got busted but also Gman alias Gopaul got busted with Paypal….
Well now isn't this interesting...You come here with just this one post now under your belt and expect credibility?

Tell us, just what or who are your "sources"?

[hondoharry]

Dont believe all the hoopla and lies they are feeding you on FTABeta that he is sick….Its all BS

My sources say that not only former Admin VGiddy got busted but also Gman alias Gopaul got busted with Paypal….I guess VGiddy was splitting the profits with him….Gman was the other Administrator on Zeta
Vgiddy was a fool to begin with….He actually made a post in announcements on Zeta with all his Paypal info on how to buy codes….I mean how careless and stupid can a person be ? He left it all out there for people to see…..LOL….. Did he think that he was Jesus or something and that no one could touch him…….What a STUPID FOOL

Are you confusing Beta with Zeta? Vgiddy was an admin at Zeta and that's where they spouted all the BS about him being sick. The mods over there have absolutely no CREDIBILITY or REPUTATION. Just spout BS to the sheep and ban those who point it out. What a bunch of losers.

[fifties]

Are you confusing Beta with Zeta? Vgiddy was an admin at Zeta and that's where they spouted all the BS about him being sick. The mods over there have absolutely no CREDIBILITY or REPUTATION. Just spout BS to the sheep and ban those who point it out. What a bunch of losers.
Ahh, Harry old boy, whyfor did they ban you at "Z"?

[Nostradamus]

not really a whole lot of difference between B & Z IMO

[pori51]

i agree 100% with everything you said,

ftabeta is a joke, i just noticed they deleted another thread where a member reported receiving a letter, the thread was about 5 pages long, now its gone, instead of trying to inform and help their members they want to leave them in the dark, what a joke

They move thread it to there Fta News & Rumors section 6 pages now

[hondoharry]

Ahh, Harry old boy, whyfor did they ban you at "Z"?

Proudly wearing that badge of honor for standing up for truth, justice and the American way.

[oz2804]

Proudly wearing that badge of honor for standing up for truth, justice and the American way.

love that bud! not everyone needs to suck up to the censorship,deleting post power of the button bs

[lonster]

Ahh, Harry old boy, whyfor did they ban you at "Z"?

Im sure I will be next for calling out EHG for kissing @ss and implying he is a poser for ripping
off the posting style of J4u

[hondoharry]

Im sure I will be next for calling out EHG for kissing @ss and implying he is a poser for ripping
off the posting style of J4u

EHG rants about how their site is different and you can speak the truth and criticize all you want and not get banned. Yeah, right! Tell me about it.

That sick excuse was the lamest BS cover up I've ever seen, especially after it's been tried so many times before. And they still won't admit it, only hiding behind so called 'security'. You really think JJ falls for the phony post counts and lies?

[JCO]

Im sure I will be next for calling out EHG for kissing @ss and implying he is a poser for ripping
off the posting style of J4u


EHG rants about how their site is different and you can speak the truth and criticize all you want and not get banned. Yeah, right! Tell me about it.

That sick excuse was the lamest BS cover up I've ever seen, especially after it's been tried so many times before. And they still won't admit it, only hiding behind so called 'security'. You really think JJ falls for the phony post counts and lies?

We dont discuss other sites here guys.. Both of you know better..

[sodusme]

not really a whole lot of difference between B & Z IMO

I think I was banned at Beta....but we all know that didn't work out so well for 'em.

ROFLMAO

Anyways....back on topic now I guess. ;)

[BPG]

I seemed to have pi$$ed a couple people off at zeta. I never even really said anything, just enough to make people
think, look and research.

I was here before under lonster1 and know the BPG and Wuff stories. I also know how satfix handled themselves. Far more
respectable than what Zeta is doing now. They are keeping people in the dark and misleading them. To me I find that to be blatantly lying and disrespectful.

Here, the staff came out and told the truth.

At Zeta they are also censoring the forums by deleting posts that suggest vgiddy has come under fire. To me that proves they know what happened and are trying to keep a user base the best they can because we all know that people scatter when stuff like this happens.


PLEASE don't put my name in the same sentence as his..!!

The VERY second that I found out I was going to be served, I notified Admins here and every site that I was on and told them the truth and had my nic retired ! I didn't make up any "sick" BS story .... I also Did NOT give up a single piece of info ! unlike these other situations .... I am dealing with my own choices and decisions , and made sure that I protected the sites and members that trusted me with their info....So , PLEASE....don't put me in that same category with those ppl....

Thank You ,

BPG~

[JCO]

I think I was banned at Beta....but we all know that didn't work out so well for 'em.

ROFLMAO

Anyways....back on topic now I guess. ;)

We should start a new thread and list all the sites we were banned from..Umm we can even place some bets on the ultimate ban..LOL
Now back to the regular program Rumors thread on a posible bust of a moderator-seller-admin.

[alex70olds]

PLEASE don't put my name in the same sentence as his..!!

The VERY second that I found out I was going to be served, I notified Admins here and every site that I was on and told them the truth and had my nic retired ! I didn't make up any "sick" BS story .... I also Did NOT give up a single piece of info ! unlike these other situations .... I am dealing with my own choices and decisions , and made sure that I protected the sites and members that trusted me with their info....So , PLEASE....don't put me in that same category with those ppl....

Thank You ,

BPG~

That IS fact!

[JCO]

PLEASE don't put my name in the same sentence as his..!!

The VERY second that I found out I was going to be served, I notified Admins here and every site that I was on and told them the truth and had my nic retired ! I didn't make up any "sick" BS story .... I also Did NOT give up a single piece of info ! unlike these other situations .... I am dealing with my own choices and decisions , and made sure that I protected the sites and members that trusted me with their info....So , PLEASE....don't put me in that same category with those ppl....

Thank You ,

BPG~

Well said BPG, very few have had the guts and values to do what you did..
Hats off and thanks from all of us.

[ftaalltheway]

Are you confusing Beta with Zeta? Vgiddy was an admin at Zeta and that's where they spouted all the BS about him being sick. The mods over there have absolutely no CREDIBILITY or REPUTATION. Just spout BS to the sheep and ban those who point it out. What a bunch of losers.

fyi,,, it was VG under "the pivot" who started beta and was admin there
until they split up and started zeta,,,i offer as reminder cuz im sure you
knew,,,so, really dont know who's pulling who's yinyang between the 2
sites anymore,,,im losing track thats cuz who cares,, anymore ;)

but if i really wanted to know i just have to ask "zekester" im sure he'd
shed some light lol

[lonster]

PLEASE don't put my name in the same sentence as his..!!

The VERY second that I found out I was going to be served, I notified Admins here and every site that I was on and told them the truth and had my nic retired ! I didn't make up any "sick" BS story .... I also Did NOT give up a single piece of info ! unlike these other situations .... I am dealing with my own choices and decisions , and made sure that I protected the sites and members that trusted me with their info....So , PLEASE....don't put me in that same category with those ppl....

Thank You ,

BPG~

I know BPG, Im sorry if I offended you. I was making reference to how Satfix handled themselves when they learned
of the situation.

I think we all know that you are solid.
Again, sorry I didnt mean anything ill towards you.

[BPG]

I know BPG, Im sorry if I offended you. I was making reference to how Satfix handled themselves when they learned
of the situation.

I think we all know that you are solid.
Again, sorry I didnt mean anything ill towards you.

no worries man, I don't get to stop in that much these days, just want to make sure that I'm not put in that same class of losers #+%*€£ snitches ! I ain't the one ..my friends ...
take care

BPG~

[alex70olds]

First this from official NFPS reseller vgiddy:

Unable to communicate with members.

I have been very sick and had to visit my Doctor today and have been advised total rest. As such I will not be available to communicate will any members on the forum for any kind of help which will include Paypal Donations. Please understand my position and be patient till I am able to be back on the Forum.

Thank you.



Then this from main mod where he sold:

Donations..

There will be NO DONATIONS sold on the site.. NO Resellers NO MODs no ONE...
The ONLY way that anyone will be able to purchase Donations will be via the IKSPRIVATESERVER.COM site...

For those FEW who have NOT received their donations (Via PAypal) from Vgiddy . You MUST log on to your PAYPAL account and CANCEL those transactions...


My red flag went berserk on this one, like there's more to this story. Smacks of another PayPal bust similar to Wufman's. Let's hope no letters come out of this. Unlike Wuf, I believe he is Canadian and lives there.

Heck we don't even have a way now to donate to the poor guy for his medical bills.


all this happened around same time they had new ip for all servers also
maybe nothing but seems strange

and seems vgiddy is going down the same road as the others,health,retired,sued,informant,ect...


Wonder if Dick was collecting Paypal info or donation names and PP info before the leak was discovered and then the letters started as that was all they needed

I am beginning to think SI went nuts on these guys. ECM (not really) IP Change, Admins banned and retired. etc. All happened around 3-21. I think SI did a 2 country sting. (They have done this before.) I know for a fact the following accounts got popped on 3-21.

18030
18031

Those are accounts, not cards. Who knows how many STB's and Cards for each account. With that type of hit, no wonder it took so long to get their channels back. I am sure PP did VG in. Easy enough to figure out how he got popped, but these guys with the accounts ~~~~~ unbelievable.

[siamjj]

hey guys,new here but thinking?
with their port changes and no notice from them,they ask for an e-mail with proof of payment.
imo seems an admission of guilt if the wrong party is asking

[siamjj]

EHG rants about how their site is different and you can speak the truth and criticize all you want and not get banned. Yeah, right! Tell me about it.

That sick excuse was the lamest BS cover up I've ever seen, especially after it's been tried so many times before. And they still won't admit it, only hiding behind so called 'security'. You really think JJ falls for the phony post counts and lies?

dear god,hope you weren't talkin bout me:tehe:

[alex70olds]

hey guys,new here but thinking?
with their port changes and no notice from them,they ask for an e-mail with proof of payment.
imo seems an admission of guilt if the wrong party is asking

I got to admit, that is some weird stuff. If your port changes on its own, you must provide proof of purchase to get you tv back. They claim (once again) resellers are reselling codes more than once. What happens when 2 people show proof for the same code? Does not make sense to me, but I aint too bright.

[hondoharry]

dear god,hope you weren't talkin bout me:tehe:

Dunno, maybe. Does the shoe fit?

[fifties]

hey guys,new here but thinking?
with their port changes and no notice from them,they ask for an e-mail with proof of payment.
imo seems an admission of guilt if the wrong party is asking
So you are suggesting that Dik could be leaning on them, as he apparently did with wufman, to extract payment information from their "subscribers", who may have purchased codes using an indirect method, like WU, which was untraceable.

Very good; I like your devious mind. I think it's a bit far-fetched, but certainly not out of the ball park, given the turmoil over there.

[ftaalltheway]

So you are suggesting that Dik could be leaning on them, as he apparently did with wufman, to extract payment information from their "subscribers", who may have purchased codes using an indirect method, like WU, which was untraceable.

Very good; I like your devious mind. I think it's a bit far-fetched, but certainly not out of the ball park, given the turmoil over there.

wouldnt that be entrapment?? i likes what you said, ,,far-fetched,,,wayyyyyy out
in left field, that is ;)

[alex70olds]

wouldnt that be entrapment?? i likes what you said, ,,far-fetched,,,wayyyyyy out
in left field, that is ;)

No entrapment in Civil court.

[fifties]

wouldnt that be entrapment??
I don't think so. They would simply be verifying what they've already done (purchased codes in a clandestine manner) in the open. Entrapment would be in getting them to do something initially.

[alex70olds]

I don't think so. They would simply be verifying what they've already done (purchased codes in a clandestine manner) in the open. Entrapment would be in getting them to do something initially.

There is no entrapment in civil court.

[alex70olds]

There is no entrapment in civil court.

Civil entrapment is usually a misnomer, as there is no entrapment defense if there is no crime committed. The objective entrapment is basically a legal question designed for the trial court. In criminal law, entrapment is the conduct by a law enforcement representative stirring up a person to commit a crime which the individual would otherwise have not been likely to commit.

From Google

[dishuser]

holly how do you know so much?

they read and learn
as opposed to cut and paste and learn nothing

[alex70olds]

holly how do you know so much?


they read and learn
as opposed to cut and paste and learn nothing

LMAO Oh and thanks HL
































j/k I meant Joe :D

[dishuser]

that was a cut and paste--( i also read and learn)ty!

you know squat
and have proved your ignorance

[dishuser]

hmm ever use google and put 2 and 2 together?
ever borrow a braincell so you would have two?

[Buttman302]

it's so sad to see this stuff happen, I made that private-hangout just for this reason to be pull down asap, and ready to reboot it right back up under another aka site, without missing a beet, as far as the records nothing is save on the site,, we even delete members PM after so many days, members info safety comes 1st,, Don't anybody remember Richie, he did it right made a site for iks/PS and the 1st. sign of a problem he pulled the site down,,, just my 2 cent but why keep a site going if it's already marked, this site did it right thing too closed down and reopen took all the reselling off the staff and just have C/P in the forums,, I wish vdiggy all the best he seem like the type of person that will protect his members,,

[Nostradamus]

hmm ever use google and put 2 and 2 together?

adding 2+2 only works if you are adding the same items.. 2 apples and 2 oranges does not make 4 apples and doesn't make 4 oranges.. it does make 4 fruit however. see the problem lies in perspective and comprehension, if you don't know what your adding you can crunch numbers all day and it doesn't mean squat. coincidentally, that is exactly how the gov't calculates the federal budget

[Nostradamus]

Don't anybody remember Richie,

yeah he was a real genius, after he directed DN to his door by posting his address on youtube videos he got a job with NASA

[surfinisfun]

it's so sad to see this stuff happen, I made that private-hangout just for this reason to be pull down asap, and ready to reboot it right back up under another aka site, without missing a beet, as far as the records nothing is save on the site,, we even delete members PM after so many days, members info safety comes 1st,, Don't anybody remember Richie, he did it right made a site for iks/PS and the 1st. sign of a problem he pulled the site down,,, just my 2 cent but why keep a site going if it's already marked, this site did it right thing too closed down and reopen took all the reselling off the staff and just have C/P in the forums,, I wish vdiggy all the best he seem like the type of person that will protect his members,,

Sorry bud, all i caught there was richie did it right.lol

[Buttman302]

yeah he was a real genius, after he directed DN to his door by posting his address on youtube videos he got a job with NASA
LMAO!!! Priceless now that funny Richie working for NASA,, your the man.. Thanks for that,, lmao!!

[Nostradamus]

sorta reminds me of when --the guy said wuf was a ratt and people beat him down

what I always find intriguing is the fact that all these people with all this inside knowledge feel that their information is so secretive that they feel the need for anonymity for their own well being or is it that the other nicks they are well known by have a reputation for kind of being way out in left field? ;)

[ftaalltheway]

then they could have closed iks many moons ago, no? <br />
<br />
they could have signed up as VIPs at aba (back <br />
when they charged for bins) and load bins <br />
and files for whatever ird THEY had and then <br />
prove...

[sodusme]

They don't wanna shut down IKS dude.... <br />
<br />
They could have gotten with the ISP's long ago and traced the traffic and actually found out where these servers are located. Nobody can hide that...

[JCO]

Their revenue from subs would be much greater that what they get net from court cases.. I'm sure their law firm charges them a huge amount..

[sodusme]

I doubt it usually a big company like DN/Nagra has a law firm on retainer that handles all their court disputes, from the disputes with Comcast, to DirecTV, to whoever else has sued them and whoever...

[1boxman]

Well...going after the isp for logs..is not that simple . and when they do get info..it is not all it .

Same as web sites ...they normally only get control of the domain name . and in some cases not for long .
There happy to take it off line with a gag order to owner . If it was cost worth it ...they would the db too .

All those big judgments ...I doubt very much will ever be collected .

Other problem is ..they have to follow rules to make legal take down ...lol

It doesn't mean they do to collect any info .

I would say they would want to take any of the servers . Just like when they could find a tie between the coders and manufactures or the receivers (owners)

[ftaalltheway]

I doubt it usually a big company like DN/Nagra has a law firm on retainer that handles all their court disputes, from the disputes with Comcast, to DirecTV, to whoever else has sued them and whoever they have sued. This law firm likely handles all their legal affairs.

I know they don't make a ton of money from this but lets face it it definitely helps the bottom line. Why continue to let people steal from you when it can easily be shut down? All they would need to do is get with the major ISP's in the country and they could shut down any and all traffic to these servers. Hell I know where the servers are located domain wise and although they may be using proxies server side....proxies are not fool proof and can be traced. Not to mention you have DNS poisoning that can be used to not resolve 'questionable' domains to i.p.'s that the ISP can call into play anytime they want to. The only way around that would be if the IKS user was using an 'open' DNS server and lets face it how many know enough to do that?

So like I said they can stop it anytime they want to they are simply refusing to and I believe its revenue related.

i dunno cuz if it were down to revenue, why then such high
(all be it inflated numbers) in potential revenue losses
they always claim as a result of sat piracy ,,,seams contradictary, imho

[sodusme]

Well...going after the isp for logs..is not that simple . and when they do get info..it is not all it .

Same as web sites ...they normally only get control of the domain name . and in some cases not for long .
There happy to take it off line with a gag order to owner . If it was cost worth it ...they would the db too .

All those big judgments ...I doubt very much will ever be collected .

Other problem is ..they have to follow rules to make legal take down ...lol

It doesn't mean they do to collect any info .

I would say they would want to take any of the servers . Just like when they could find a tie between the coders and manufactures or the receivers (owners)

Well there are a couple things they could call into play at anytime and they refuse to do....

First TLD (Top Level Domain) seizures/shutdowns/take overs. What that means is any website operating on a .COM or .NET or .TV and some others are subject to the ownership of Verisign. Verisign a long with the government said many months or years ago I forget how long now that any website operating on any of those TLD's regardless of where the i.p. is provided from (offshore or not) can be seized by the feds. That is what led to the take down of Megaupload. I forget where their i.p. was out of but I don't think it was the U.S. In fact they have come back now under a new domain:
https://mega.co.nz/ Notice it is now .CO.NZ which is a New Zealand TLD host so its not up for grabs anymore by the U.S. Dept. Of Justice like it was before. So I know for a fact that most if not ALL of these IKS servers are operating on TLD's under U.S. jurisdiction.

Second is domain registrar. Most if not all of these are registered using fictitious registrar information. Same with all these websites unless you are hiding the registrar with a company that provides that and are instead using 'fake' info....that is reason to get the domain pulled. Because of terrorism the U.S. feds have said its illegal to register a site with fake and/or bogus information.

So they could hit these IKS servers with either of those 'laws'....and they refuse to. Now explain to me why they are not? Because like I said its revenue. They are greedy bastards and they know they can get not only subs from their crappy service but they can also pinch the 'pirates' for a fee when they catch 'em.

DN is not stupid so they are getting revenue from legitimate subs AND getting revenue from these lawsuits. That is exactly how they want it. All be it its not much revenue....but it all goes towards Charlie Ergens net worth.


i dunno cuz if it were down to revenue, why then such high
(all be it inflated numbers) in potential revenue losses
they always claim as a result of sat piracy ,,,seams contradictary, imho

Well I have always disagreed with the 'potential lost revenue' B.S. and that is exactly what it is.

Lets say you are a car thief and instead of stealing a Yugo you go and steal a Cadillac....does that mean you would have purchased said Cadillac if given the chance? Of course not....it simply means you are car thief with taste, or the Cadillac was easier to steal, or it was more convenient, OR any number of other reasons.

Revenue is not revenue until which time as its 'paid' to you for services. You cannot calculate 'lost' revenue based on what you THINK you would have gotten from the individual. Revenue is revenue....theft is theft. They keep confusing the two and saying how much they think you could have stolen in programming. Which in reality they have no idea. They don't know if you watched 10 PPV's or 100 PPV's. They have no idea. If an individual has a bag filled with apples and has no idea how many are in the bag and I steal 'some' from him....he can't sit back and say "Well your honor he stole X amount of apples"....because he has no idea how many were stolen 'cause he has no idea how many were in the bag. Same principle applies here DN/Nagra has X amount of channels worth X amount of dollars per month and they have no idea how much 'theft' actually took place. Its B.S. that the U.S. justice system works this way. You should be allowed 'restitution' and 'damages' on what you can prove was stolen....not on what you think was stolen.

That's whats wrong with America today too much 'speculation' from the gas prices that are bankrupting America to fat @ss attorneys/detectives/LEA that speculate on what they think you did.

[ftaalltheway]

Well there are a couple things they could call into play at anytime and they refuse to do....

First TLD (Top Level Domain) seizures/shutdowns/take overs. What that means is any website operating on a .COM or .NET or .TV and some others are subject to the ownership of Verisign. Verisign a long with the government said many months or years ago I forget how long now that any website operating on any of those TLD's regardless of where the i.p. is provided from (offshore or not) can be seized by the feds. That is what led to the take down of Megaupload. I forget where their i.p. was out of but I don't think it was the U.S. In fact they have come back now under a new domain:
https://mega.co.nz/ Notice it is now .CO.NZ which is a New Zealand TLD host so its not up for grabs anymore by the U.S. Dept. Of Justice like it was before. So I know for a fact that most if not ALL of these IKS servers are operating on TLD's under U.S. jurisdiction.

Second is domain registrar. Most if not all of these are registered using fictitious registrar information. Same with all these websites unless you are hiding the registrar with a company that provides that and are instead using 'fake' info....that is reason to get the domain pulled. Because of terrorism the U.S. feds have said its illegal to register a site with fake and/or bogus information.

So they could hit these IKS servers with either of those 'laws'....and they refuse to. Now explain to me why they are not? Because like I said its revenue. They are greedy bastards and they know they can get not only subs from their crappy service but they can also pinch the 'pirates' for a fee when they catch 'em.

DN is not stupid so they are getting revenue from legitimate subs AND getting revenue from these lawsuits. That is exactly how they want it. All be it its not much revenue....but it all goes towards Charlie Ergens net worth.



Well I have always disagreed with the 'potential lost revenue' B.S. and that is exactly what it is.

Lets say you are a car thief and instead of stealing a Yugo you go and steal a Cadillac....does that mean you would have purchased said Cadillac if given the chance? Of course not....it simply means you are car thief with taste, or the Cadillac was easier to steal, or it was more convenient, OR any number of other reasons.

Revenue is not revenue until which time as its 'paid' to you for services. You cannot calculate 'lost' revenue based on what you THINK you would have gotten from the individual. Revenue is revenue....theft is theft. They keep confusing the two and saying how much they think you could have stolen in programming. Which in reality they have no idea. They don't know if you watched 10 PPV's or 100 PPV's. They have no idea. If an individual has a bag filled with apples and has no idea how many are in the bag and I steal 'some' from him....he can't sit back and say "Well your honor he stole X amount of apples"....because he has no idea how many were stolen 'cause he has no idea how many were in the bag. Same principle applies here DN/Nagra has X amount of channels worth X amount of dollars per month and they have no idea how much 'theft' actually took place. Its B.S. that the U.S. justice system works this way. You should be allowed 'restitution' and 'damages' on what you can prove was stolen....not on what you think was stolen.

That's whats wrong with America today too much 'speculation' from the gas prices that are bankrupting America to fat @ss attorneys/detectives/LEA that speculate on what they think you did.

yeah you certainly know about what they can do and are NOT doing visavis
closing websites (fta) but not to argue anymore than needed, i only wonder
why then,,they are a public company,,,they would sell this letter scheme
(extortion) to their shareholders?? you think THEY buy this game of
"ringaround a rosie" played by their legal FaTT assses, as you rightly called them?? lol

[alex70olds]

2 things,

1) D!sh has always elected statutory awards vs actual damages, which is their right.

2) Once an award is given by the courts, it can be classified as an account receivable. As such, it appears as revenue. Once it is determined the defendant can not pay, then it can be written off as bad debt, and thus lower tax liability. This is only a guess, but it is confusing why they take the direction they do.

[ftaalltheway]

2 things,

1) D!sh has always elected statutory awards vs actual damages, which is their right.

2) Once an award is given by the courts, it can be classified as an account receivable. As such, it appears as revenue. Once it is determined the defendant can not pay, then it can be written off as bad debt, and thus lower tax liability. This is only a guess, but it is confusing why they take the direction they do.

no wonder this (iks fight) is taken place in civil even though
on one hand it is deemed THEFT of services...lol

course,,,its a whole lot easier to get a judgement than PROVE your claim,,ESP
when you start your extortion at 3500.00 ;)

[fifties]

They don't wanna shut down IKS dude....

They could have gotten with the ISP's long ago and traced the traffic and actually found out where these servers are located. Nobody can hide that good....not even me. So I have come to the conclusion that they don't really want to shut down IKS as they have been afforded ample opportunity to do so.

Do you know why?

There is no 'damages' and 'judgements' to be awarded if they simply shut it down. They are greedy and know that they can sue and push people around and there is guaranteed revenue for them as long as IKS is in operation.
SOD, this is ridiculous. DN has over 13 MILLION subs. Do you think they give a rat's patootie about ten or fifteen thousand IKS scofflaws? If your theory were correct, why would they be doing so-called, "ECM's", with the effect of disrupting programming, and driving away potential patsies?

BTW, the NFPS server is currently located in Sri Lanka. Even a dummy like me can find it, eh eh;

http://nfpsserver.tv.websitetrafficspy.com/

[ftaalltheway]

SOD, this is ridiculous. DN has over 13 MILLION subs. Do you think they give a rat's patootie about ten or fifteen thousand IKS scofflaws? If your theory were correct, why would they be doing so-called, "ECM's", with the effect of disrupting programming, and driving away potential patsies?

BTW, the NFPS server is currently located in Sri Lanka. Even a dummy like me can find it, eh eh;

http://nfpsserver.tv.websitetrafficspy.com/

yep they stepped-up their game of dodge ball, lol
these guys have been dn's thorn from the getgo and despite
their latest mishaps (fiasco) their chugging along with that HUGE
TARGET on their backs,,,dn would just luv to shut'em down, them more
than any other p$ right now,,,imho

[sodusme]

SOD, this is ridiculous. DN has over 13 MILLION subs. Do you think they give a rat's patootie about ten or fifteen thousand IKS scofflaws? If your theory were correct, why would they be doing so-called, "ECM's", with the effect of disrupting programming, and driving away potential patsies?

BTW, the NFPS server is currently located in Sri Lanka. Even a dummy like me can find it, eh eh;

http://nfpsserver.tv.websitetrafficspy.com/

Because they have a legal obligation to answer to their share holders in an attempt to 'curb' piracy that is why the ECM's....

Its not 'located' in Sri Lanka....the i.p. might be from Sri Lanka but that matters not. Its up for grabs from the Dept. Of Justice as long as that Top Level Domain resolves to a .COM webpage.

And like you said exactly....even someone like you can find it. So if you can find it so easily why then is DN/Nagras SI unable to 'find' and 'shut' it down?

Because they don't want to is why.

[ftaalltheway]

Because they have a legal obligation to answer to their share holders in an attempt to 'curb' piracy that is why the ECM's....

Its not 'located' in Sri Lanka....the i.p. might be from Sri Lanka but that matters not. Its up for grabs from the Dept. Of Justice as long as that Top Level Domain resolves to a .COM webpage.

And like you said exactly....even someone like you can find it. So if you can find it so easily why then is DN/Nagras SI unable to 'find' and 'shut' it down?

Because they don't want to is why.

aha,,,that explains the increase in ecm's this fiscal yr
shareholders must have budgeted for them,,,lol cuz this yr
started gang busters compared to last,,,funny how they
are shutting down other iks ops in other countries in an
effort to curb sat piracy yet unable to shut down nfps,,always been curious about THAT
esp when (3-4 yrs ago) they started posting WANTED posters rewarding anyone
who would lead them to their (nfps) servers?? all the more curious
that they upped the reward last yr...oh what a weird situation,,,lol

[sodusme]

aha,,,that explains the increase in ecm's this fiscal yr
shareholders must have budgeted for them,,,lol cuz this yr
started gang busters compared to last,,,funny how they
are shutting down other iks ops in other countries in an
effort to curb sat piracy yet unable to shut down nfps,,always been curious about THAT
esp when (3-4 yrs ago) they started posting WANTED posters rewarding anyone
who would lead them to their (nfps) servers?? all the more curious
that they upped the reward last yr...oh what a weird situation,,,lol

Exactly....

You can read about their 'raids' and shut downs of other providers IKS servers on their site happening in Europe and all over. Yet for some reason here in the states NFPS is just so good that DN/Nagra's SI team is unable to find and shut them down. They are just so intelligent that they have been able to elude DN/Nagra for how many years now?

Yeah right....quite a curious situation.

[hotdogger]

Sure they could have shut IKS down long ago , but JJ and crew ( including attorneys ) would not want to jeopardize their job security .

No pirates = no jobs

Throw some ECM's and a few lawsuits to show everybody you're trying so hard . lol

[lonster]

I am beginning to think SI went nuts on these guys. ECM (not really) IP Change, Admins banned and retired. etc. All happened around 3-21. I think SI did a 2 country sting. (They have done this before.) I know for a fact the following accounts got popped on 3-21.

18030
18031

Those are accounts, not cards. Who knows how many STB's and Cards for each account. With that type of hit, no wonder it took so long to get their channels back. I am sure PP did VG in. Easy enough to figure out how he got popped, but these guys with the accounts ~~~~~ unbelievable.

Quote Originally Posted by hondoharry
First this from official NFPS reseller vgiddy:

Unable to communicate with members.

I have been very sick and had to visit my Doctor today and have been advised total rest. As such I will not be available to communicate will any members on the forum for any kind of help which will include Paypal Donations. Please understand my position and be patient till I am able to be back on the Forum.

Thank you.



Then this from main mod where he sold:

Donations..

There will be NO DONATIONS sold on the site.. NO Resellers NO MODs no ONE...
The ONLY way that anyone will be able to purchase Donations will be via the IKSPRIVATESERVER.COM site...

For those FEW who have NOT received their donations (Via PAypal) from Vgiddy . You MUST log on to your PAYPAL account and CANCEL those transactions...


My red flag went berserk on this one, like there's more to this story. Smacks of another PayPal bust similar to Wufman's. Let's hope no letters come out of this. Unlike Wuf, I believe he is Canadian and lives there.

Heck we don't even have a way now to donate to the poor guy for his medical bills.


Quote Originally Posted by skyview
all this happened around same time they had new ip for all servers also
maybe nothing but seems strange

and seems vgiddy is going down the same road as the others,health,retired,sued,informant,ect...


Quote Originally Posted by clarkie
Wonder if Dick was collecting Paypal info or donation names and PP info before the leak was discovered and then the letters started as that was all they needed







See the server thing is funny, I run a dedicated on the same host they do, used to run vps's. NFPS was on Vps's until the server change now they are on dedicated.

Their host is awesome, very professional and neither my Vps's or Dedi has been down in the whole time I have been with them. The hosting problem that they mentioned just doesn't equate to a probable explanation as they are fully managed and my dedi is on the same ip range as theirs. I have never had an issue.

Another thing that is so dumb that I find hilarious (and I can say this because I guarantee Im not the only to know) is that the Z site was moved to the same server that the IKS is hosted on.

The 185 range is dedi with that host, the 37 range is their Vps's.

Who ever is running or decided to move Z to that server is beyond stupid.

[fifties]

Its not 'located' in Sri Lanka....the i.p. might be from Sri Lanka but that matters not. Its up for grabs from the Dept. Of Justice as long as that Top Level Domain resolves to a .COM webpage.

It's not a dot com page, rather, it's dot TV. Does that make a difference?

EDIT; BTW, I don't think that shutting down an overseas server is quite as easy as you are suggesting. They were able to do it to Dark Angel, who was in Canada, and the SonySat operation, who I believe was located in the Northeast U.S. (New Jersey?), but do you know of any other server offshore who they were able to plunder? I do know that the Dongle Fever operation was supposed to be offshore, and it was shut down, by the owner. Could have been legal heat of some kind, but apparently DN/Nagra didn't get their fingers directly into it. Do we know what happened to IKS Japan (or whatever their name was)?

[sodusme]

It's not a dot com page, rather, it's dot TV. Does that make a difference?

EDIT; BTW, I don't think that shutting down an overseas server is quite as easy as you are suggesting. They were able to do it to Dark Angel, who was in Canada, and the SonySat operation, who I believe was located in the Northeast U.S. (New Jersey?), but do you know of any other server offshore who they were able to plunder? I do know that the Dongle Fever operation was supposed to be offshore, and it was shut down, by the owner. Could have been legal heat of some kind, but apparently DN/Nagra didn't get their fingers directly into it. Do we know what happened to IKS Japan (or whatever their name was)?

None what so ever....


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/


When U.S. authorities shuttered sports-wagering site Bodog.com last week, it raised eyebrows across the net because the domain name was registered with a Canadian company, ostensibly putting it beyond the reach of the U.S. government. Working around that, the feds went directly to VeriSign, a U.S.-based internet backbone company that has the contract to manage the coveted .com and other “generic” top-level domains.


VeriSign, a U.S.-based internet backbone company that has the contract to manage the coveted .com and other “generic” top-level domains.


The government, Navas said, usually serves court-ordered seizures on VeriSign, which manages domains ending in .com, .net, .cc, .tv and .name, because “foreign-based registrars are not bound to comply with U.S. court orders.”

Read that first paragraph closely. Bodog was registered with a Canadian company but because it was using a .COM TLD (Top Level Domain) it was seized. Megupload was seized when the owner was living in New Zealand....again because it was using a .COM TLD. Ninjavideo is a .NET that was seized. There are hundreds of websites that were seized because of this 'law'. You can search them out if you really want to.

But that is what I'm saying at ANY time they can shut these guys down....they don't have to even contact the registrars in what ever country they happen to be in. They simply serve papers on Verisign and they pull the plug. Because any and all .COM (and all the other TLD's mentioned) pass traffic through the backbone trunk lines that are owned/operated by Verisign.

So in a nutshell it is that easy to shut down any website (regardless of registering country or i.p.) parked on a TLD of .COM, .TV, .NET, .BIZ or .ORG. Now again if DN/Nagra really wanted to end IKS they could administer the death blow as quick as getting papers served on Verisign. But yet as I've said....they refuse to.

[ftaalltheway]

None what so ever....


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/







Read that first paragraph closely. Bodog was registered with a Canadian company but because it was using a .COM TLD (Top Level Domain) it was seized. Megupload was seized when the owner was living in New Zealand....again because it was using a .COM TLD. Ninjavideo is a .NET that was seized. There are hundreds of websites that were seized because of this 'law'. You can search them out if you really want to.

But that is what I'm saying at ANY time they can shut these guys down....they don't have to even contact the registrars in what ever country they happen to be in. They simply serve papers on Verisign and they pull the plug. Because any and all .COM (and all the other TLD's mentioned) pass traffic through the backbone trunk lines that are owned/operated by Verisign.

So in a nutshell it is that easy to shut down any website (regardless of registering country or i.p.) parked on a TLD of .COM, .TV, .NET, .BIZ or .ORG. Now again if DN/Nagra really wanted to end IKS they could administer the death blow as quick as getting papers served on Verisign. But yet as I've said....they refuse to.

prob b/c those sites will find a new domain,,, as in bodog . eu
and with fta, well, domains that dont end in .COM so long as they are outside homeland they basically wont
bother UNLESS it is against Homeland Security specific , no?

edit, and, you dont mean seized , rather, forced shut down??

[sodusme]

prob b/c those sites will find a new domain,,, as in bodog . eu
and with fta, well, domains that dont end in .COM so long as they are outside homeland they basically wont
bother UNLESS it is against Homeland Security specific , no?

edit, and, you dont mean seized , rather, forced shut down??


http://ninjavideo.net/


http://amoyhy.com/


http://www.firstrowsports.tv/


“This domain name has been seized by ICE — Homeland Security Investigations, pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a United States District Court.”

Nope I mean 'seized'. Basically if the government thinks or is tipped off that your site offers counterfeit goods or copyright material they use that as a basis to shut down your site. Or in the case of Bodog if they simply want to because they neither sold goods or offered downloadable content. There is never a site that goes against 'homeland security' its just a trumped up way of stealing and shutting down a website that they don't want in operation. Unless its a terrorist website and I would be willing to bet some of those are operating on .com TLD's.

Doesn't matter where the domain is 'located' at....what matters is those three letters after the period. If they end in .com, .tv, .net, .org, .cc, .name, .biz they can seize the domain.

Now say they shut down an IKS server ending in .com or .tv or whatever? Someone has to be making the payments for that domain. Doesn't matter if its registered in a bogus name or hidden behind an anonymous registrar or not. Somewhere there is a paper trail for somebody paying the fees to keep that domain online. Unless they are sending cash and that is very unlikely. Not to mention there has to be an 'administrator' reachable for any domain problems that might crop up or complaints against the site. Now they could be outside the country I suppose but that information is available and has to be accurate.