Feed 82 brd from a working sw44 setup...

[kwalsh24]

Alright so I have been trying to feed 82bird over to my FTA setup with the 1 open ports on my diseqc switch. I did some previous research and postings to try and figure this out however Its just not working. Here is my setup...

Bev side:
91 & 82 feeding a sw44 that feeds 2 Bev receivers (5100, 9241PVRs)

FTA Side
110,119,129 going to a EMP-Centauri 1x4 diseqc switch

I bought a 3x4 Zinwell switch as I was told it should work for what I am after. However when I hook the 3x4 between my LNB & sw44, the bell side fails to get a signal however the FTA side has no issues. I contacted the seller for the Zinwell, told him how I am hookin git up and he claims that hes done many setups before in the exact way I have mine wired with no issues. So is he feeding me BS or what the heck is going on?

I have also tried this setup at another location (exact same setup) and still same issues.

I have also tried a different Zinwell switch (exact same switch) and still the same issue happens.

I also went as far as installing 2 zinwells to split 91 & 82 to feed a diseqc & sw44 and that didnt work either.

Any help would be great! thanks!

Photos attached of my setup with & without the extra switch....

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[dishuser]

cascade sw into diseqc

[kwalsh24]

Hmm well I tried taking a feed from my sw to my diseqc however neither my dreamlink or my jynx box detected 82 or 91

[dishuser]

Hmm well I tried taking a feed from my sw to my diseqc however neither my dreamlink or my jynx box detected 82 or 91

did you pick both in setup?
I'm guessing not

[Terryl]

Your mixing a legacy switch (SW44=+14 and +18 volt switching) with a diseqc switch,(22 KHz diseqc command switching) some receivers don't like that setup.

You may be dragging down the Bell side so it can't switch or detect the #1 satellite.

To get it to work right you may have to upgrade the Bell side to new DP type LNBs, and a new DPP44 switch, then the #4 feed from the DPP44 can feed a 22 KHz switch to go between the two setups.

But trying to combine them will cause problems on the Bell side.

[dishuser]

Your mixing a legacy switch (SW44=+14 and +18 volt switching) with a diseqc switch,(22 KHz diseqc command switching) some receivers don't like that setup.

You may be dragging down the Bell side so it can't switch or detect the #1 satellite.

To get it to work right you may have to upgrade the Bell side to new DP type LNBs, and a new DPP44 switch, then the #4 feed from the DPP44 can feed a 22 KHz switch to go between the two setups.

But trying to combine them will cause problems on the Bell side.

sw with diseqc catching 5 birds
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4345/photo0266i.jpg

[Terryl]

Did you see how old his SW44 switch was? That could be his problem.

And like I said, some receivers don't like that combo.

You have a diagram that may help him out?

[dishuser]

if sw goes into port 4 for example then for 82 port 4 and sw44 dish 2 is used
for 91 port 4 and sw44 dish 1 is used
been setting up sw with diseqcs for years
helps going more than 4 birds on a 4 port switch
used to have 2 sw-21's and a diseqc getting 61.5/82/91/110/119/148 years ago...lol

[kwalsh24]

Dishuser....

I tried doing what you said with my dreamlink. That didn't work, it stilldidnt detect either 91 or 82... however when I do a scan on the satellites some channels do detect in scan, but wont come in when I tune to them, sometimes a dn channel would come in instead.

Ill try that on my jynxbox and see. If this doesn't work ill just scrap the idea as idont really need to do this, it was just a idea thinking it would be nice to have bev & dn accessible on one unit. As everything is working fine, I don't need to upgrade to dp heads n switch just yet, plan to do that when/if something were to die in the future.

[dishuser]

Dishuser....

I tried doing what you said with my dreamlink. That didn't work, it stilldidnt detect either 91 or 82... however when I do a scan on the satellites some channels do detect in scan, but wont come in when I tune to them, sometimes a dn channel would come in instead.

Ill try that on my jynxbox and see. If this doesn't work ill just scrap the idea as idont really need to do this, it was just a idea thinking it would be nice to have bev & dn accessible on one unit. As everything is working fine, I don't need to upgrade to dp heads n switch just yet, plan to do that when/if something were to die in the future.
the pic I posted is connected to a DLHD

[kwalsh24]

Hmm well its nit making any sense then, what do you have for your setting in you dlhd box? As I've gone in set the diseqc to port 4, legacy sw44 dish 1 and no signal. Hmm.

Weird thing, I go to 91 select diseqc port 4 and the system says it detects bird 110? I do all the exact same settings for 82 and I have no signal

[dishuser]

Hmm well its nit making any sense then, what do you have for your setting in you dlhd box? As I've gone in set the diseqc to port 4, legacy sw44 dish 1 and no signal. Hmm.

Weird thing, I go to 91 select diseqc port 4 and the system says it detects bird 110? I do all the exact same settings for 82 and I have no signal
what's powering sw44?

[kwalsh24]

A power injector box that came with it, to which feeds my 9241 pvr

[dishuser]

A power injector box that came with it, to which feeds my 9241 pvr

and you're selecting a diseqc port as well as sw for bev?

[kwalsh24]

Yes I am, I am selecing port 4, then sw44 dish 1 for 82 and dish 2 for 91

[dishuser]

also try under different sw settings like 21 or 42
maybe software isn't right

[dishuser]

Yes I am, I am selecing port 4, then sw44 dish 1 for 82 and dish 2 for 91
you have it backwards

[kwalsh24]

Well, I tried everything, not sure what's going on as its like my diseqc switch isn't even detecting the signal coking from the sw44, as it keeps picking up 110 (which is my #1 port install)

My sw44 has 82 on sat1 input and 91 on sat 2 input, I even tried swapping those around prior to all this to see if that would change anything and it didn't.

Maybe my sw44 is just to old to work properly with this Setup. Mind you everything works fine other than trying to feed a,signal over to the diseqc switch.

I have flipped thru all the legacy switch types and nothing changes. So its puzzling, both my dlhd and jynx do the same signaling issues

[WillDekkard]

Do you have your dish system, especially the switches grounded to an earth ground rod? Many receivers encounter switching problems when more than 1 receiver is incorporated to your setup.

[kwalsh24]

Hmm this is an old post but ill be revisiting this issue now that the weather is nice out again.

I don't have a earth ground on the house anywhere close to where the satellite is mounted.

What doesn't make
sense is at my brother house I can get 82 to work on his dlhd box, but not 91 (which for him didn't matter) I fed a feed. rom his sw44 over to his 4x1 that his DN setup and it works. His setup is a 9241 connected to a sw44 legacy. On the DN side its just your standard cheita 4x1 hooked up to 119/110. That setup has been working fine for him for 8 or more months now

I have taken the zinwell switches out of the picture. It appears that at the 3rd location will need a sw44a placed with the currently installed sw44 to gain the extra reciever ports I require. However I would have to get my setup to work first seeing how the 3rd location has 2 9241 units hooked up to a sw44...

Now the only thing I can think of being different between my location and my brothers working location is the diseqc type. His is a 1.0 switch and mine is a 2.0 switch. Perhaps that's the issue however I don't have a 1.0 switch to test with damnit lol

[kwalsh24]

Alright, so I swapped out my sw44 with a newer sw44 #switch. I also grabbed the cheita switch from site #3 and I managed to get 82 to come in on my DN setup. Yay. Now to swap out the cheita with my original switch to see if the setup continues to work

[kwalsh24]

Hmm appears that this setup requires a fussy sw44 switch, As my original switch didnt work the replacement does, so I tested this again with another witch I ahve and that switch didnt work in the setup... Weird