39" Dish needed for 91!

[cmangle]

Ok it seems as though the footprint for 91w (Nimiq6) is NOT the same as 82w (Nimiq4).

Whereas prior to the Nimiq6 replacement on a 33"(70cm) dish I could get 82 and 91, I now can only get 82 without a whisper of a signal from 91!

I am located at 40n lat and according to most Nimiq6 footprint maps the 54dbw (or was it 52dbw) signal line is 100 or so miles north, around New york city. In Rockaway(just east of brooklyn) I used a 33" dish to get 82 and 91, apparently the 33" dish doesn't cut it this far south.

So I'm thinking of going to a 39"(90cm) dish (go right by 36"~80cm) to reacquire the 91 sat. The dish I'm looking at has a 40.32 dbi gain but without a definite signal level for my location calculating dish size is tough.

So any input on dish size and a source for a 39" (90cm) dish is what I am seeking help with.

thanks chris

[cmangle]

as I'm learning 70cm = 30" 80cm = 33" 90cm = 36", 100cm = 39"!

and I don't think 36" will work well enough!

[noone]

if you are not sure, best just to go with a 1M. = 48'' dish ...Are you using a motorized system? that would also play a factor on how big a dish you can use...

[dishuser]

if you are not sure, best just to go with a 1M. = 48'' dish ...Are you using a motorized system? that would also play a factor on how big a dish you can use...

1M=39" not 48"

[FTA]

they have tightened up the foot print LARGELY so it may be a toughy to get it yer gonna need a 4 foot dish most likely

[noone]

Yes, My bad....I meant 1.2 M ( I believe that's what it is )

[cmangle]

I'm told a 4' was working in North Carolina, but a 33" here outside of Phila doesn't seem to see ANY of 91.0w xpndrs at all.

That being said will 3" (the 36" dish @ 40.32 has almost 2db more gain) improve ALL xpndrs.?

A 39" dish I believe has close to 4db more gain we'll see.

thanks for all of the input guys, chris

[arflaw]

Keep in mind that if a 36 or 39 doesn't see sat, then a 48, if it even sees it, probably won't have enough signal for a picture....

[cmangle]

Well, a 33" dish in Brooklyn, NY gets 91.0w OK, not great, but OK. Signal levels are 50-70 % relative to the FTA box I'm using.

Because the Dreamlink HD signal meter for aligning is NFG, I used a nFusion Solaris, and the Solaris reads slightly higher readings 60-80%.

But the point is, not even with the Satbeams site NOT knowing the EIRP level,(s) the 33" dish DID get 91.0w.

So a 36" inch dish here 100 miles south, may just get marginal levels, the 39" should get acceptable levels except in a rain situation.

[teeteesat]

Let us know the result when you try 39" dish

[cmangle]

Definitely gentlemen, on the results.

I ordered two of the 33" dishes and after installing the first is when I found out that 33" would not get 91.0w at my latitude, (82.0w scanned fine all xpndrs but not 91.0w). Damnest thing an 18" dish scanned in about 80 channels from 82.0w at another house using a DreamLink HD

I gotta break the news to the 2nd install that 33" aint gonna get it! and that my crystal ball sees a 39" dish in his future. I would install this 33" dish but with only 82.0w signals detectable (ALL of which are HD) his SD receiver won't even scan the xpndrs in.

[edlkll]

I live about 100 miles south of NY City in south jersey. I am not getting 91 and was told I can get 82 here but have not tried a bigger dish yet.
Let me know how you make out with the bigger dishes. I may have to try one. I sure am missing 91, it was one of my favorite sats.